Steve1, I am with you on the WUSV Como performance now - Page 1

After watching and analyzing the video  of Ronny Berghe and his dog's performance at this year's WUSV again - Steve was right.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5SNZdRH9qI

It was the helper's fault with Como. The guy gave him his triceps, looks like,not the bite bar. Poor dog grabbed what he could, tried tomake the best of it and held onto it.

The video's sound clearlycaptures the crowdand their reactions.

The long biehelper also drove the dog very hard with some unnecessary swinging, and again, the dog adjusted and did what he could - on his own. This is a very good dog, actualy GREAT dog, no question.

Without the helper's mistakes, this should have been a 96 or 97 performance, the dog showsan amazing ability to focusonthe task at hand, analyze situation and adapt on his own.

One of the better "clear headed" dogs I have seen lately too.

This dog is not going anywhere from competing in WUSV for the next 3 years at least, for sure. And he is only going to get better.

Not to start a huge arguement but i dont see how you can blame the helper. He did the same for all the dogs. So why did others make the grip and not this dog? The problem i see is in the set up of the dogs.. The dogs that got the elbow were being a bit lazy. they had to come around on the helper to take that grip most just went for the quickest route.  Just a choice and i am sure next year he will have that problem fixed.

Ceddyg

No huge argument here, no problems. In my opinion it was the helper.

Yes, he gave the shitty sleeve presentation to all dogs -true. He gave the shitty presentation to this one too.

But, at precisely 1 minute and 55 seconds in the video,after the shitty presentation of the sleeve and the dog grabbing what he could, he then almoststops, with the dog dangling and then spins around some, thus giving more torque and the dog falls off understandably, then the dog immediately recovers to yet another shitty sleeve presentation.

I think it was the helper. This is a good dog.

Como is definately a top top dog. The helper did that to keep his balance and not fall. So if he was shitty with every dog why did some get good bites and some missed?

ceddyg

I already answered you that, I believe - because he stopped and spun around.

I do not know why some dogs missed and some did not, and I cannot speculate, although, yes, he was pretty consistently shitty with all of them, not WUSV level helper by any stretch of imagination.

 I have to say that the decoy seemed a bit out of control. I didnt look to me as if he was smooth or controled in his body so i cant imagine him doing that same thing with every dog. I also just watched the same decoy work Eric vom sportpark and he did not give the same presentation that he gave como nor did he look as reckless in his body. check it out for yourself.

 After watching the videos of the back half i dont like either decoy. I will agree that the set up for the escape was messing up a lot of dogs. The decoy for the courage test bails on every dog but at least it was consistent. I was taught as a decoy to go straight to the dog not to veer off as the dog comes down the field. But what do i know im not at the world championship.

Yes, I agree, I mean, come on... Como wasliterally ridingon the guy's back, like, piggy back style.Yes, the back half decoy consistently bailed to the left on every dog.

Maybe they were instructed to do everything that way, I have no clue.

Adi
Thank you you are the only one to agree with me,I am not going to get into any slanging match with the Guys on here again over it The event has ended and the result stands,
But i see enough different helpers during the course of a year working to know what i am talking about,
Regards what most of Sch Competitions you Guys see only you know but i attend at least 20 a year when i see someone who basically is not strong enough for some Dogs, plus his technique had much to be desired as well.
But then looking at the Videos of some of the Obed Phases,
 Adi you get the chance take a look at Comos Obed then take a look at the Dog who won the Competition Obed Phase and tell me what you see, PM if you like so it does not cause hassle on here
As Adi says the dog is only 3 years old, he has the world within his grasp and i bet he will do it before he retires,
as regards Comos Score i can tell you this there is no sour Grapes with me I have been in many sports in my life and at the Top of them to boot and you do not get there by being petty and not being a good sportsman. We know a Judge can make a bad decision, they can miss a dog doing something like moving its feet when on a stand they only have one pair of eyes, But the thing is this when you can see that the Dog is not entirely at fault the points should be adjusted accordingly but given like sweeties, and i am not just talking about Como in this instance many dogs were hard done by
I am not going to keep on with this thread i reply because my name is on the heading, Let us see what happens next year in Spain, i am going to try and save up to go along with the Belgian Team,a once in a life time experience it will be for me and at my age probably the only chance, seeing it is cheap to get to Spain from Belgium
Steve1