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by petoasis on 30 October 2009 - 13:10
According very solid news, R.Mayer step down and suspend license for two years.
by petoasis on 30 October 2009 - 14:10
According very solid news,Reinhardt Meyer step down with two years suspend license.
by Tan100 on 30 October 2009 - 14:10
What a load of...HOG WASH... get your fax right before posting rubbish, you have been very badly informed.
He still stands
He still stands
by subhani on 30 October 2009 - 14:10
Dear please wake up I think u r dreaming :)
by Videx on 30 October 2009 - 17:10
The matter is to be dealt with in a German Law Court on Monday 2nd November
I would respectfully urge everyone to await the decision of the court, which is also expected on Monday.
I would respectfully urge everyone to await the decision of the court, which is also expected on Monday.
by Vikram on 30 October 2009 - 20:10
he has been quite controversial
by Jantie on 30 October 2009 - 22:10
Hi Vikram! I don't think the word "controversial" is appropriate here. What we have heard and read about R.M. is only the culmination of what is and has been going on "at the top" for ages (well, decades anyway).
From what we learned from the protocol of the secret meeting and the accompanying statements from his collegue-judges, he was just involved as much as the others. Therefore, and by all means without any disrespect towards you, "controversial" is the wrong word. He pretty much confirmed through his actions that he was not changing anything, and did what everybody else did: just go for the money, grab what you can.
His speeches about changing the breed were merely a smoke curtain, he didn't bring any change, went for the big dogs with extreme angulations, loose hocks, etc., (did NOT change a thing when it comes to HD and breeding regulations!) and crowned baby-dogs (that have by no means proven being "good producers") as Auslesers. Let's hope the court digs deep!
From what we learned from the protocol of the secret meeting and the accompanying statements from his collegue-judges, he was just involved as much as the others. Therefore, and by all means without any disrespect towards you, "controversial" is the wrong word. He pretty much confirmed through his actions that he was not changing anything, and did what everybody else did: just go for the money, grab what you can.
His speeches about changing the breed were merely a smoke curtain, he didn't bring any change, went for the big dogs with extreme angulations, loose hocks, etc., (did NOT change a thing when it comes to HD and breeding regulations!) and crowned baby-dogs (that have by no means proven being "good producers") as Auslesers. Let's hope the court digs deep!
by Videx on 30 October 2009 - 23:10
Jantie: You are wrong. Changes in our breed take many generations to implement, and it is not a simple matter of issuing instructions and it is done. GSD breeders and exhibitors and working folk are not machines, they can actually think for themselves.
The leadership illustrated by Reinhardt Meyer has been considered, measured and targeted. He will need at least another 5 years to complete his initial programme of changes to a reasonable level. It should never be forgotten that he also has to tolerate and work with very powerful opposition within the SV hierarchy, they may be a minority, but they are powerful, and they will undermine him and his ideas constantly, and in very underhanded ways, and at every opportunity.
Never forget, rumour is not fact, innuendo is not fact, wishful thinking is not fact, opinion is not fact, hearsay is not fact. Yet all of these will be and have been used against him in various combinations, and frequently referred to as fact.
Do not be influenced by unsubstantiated negative vitriolic comment.
Reinhardt Meyer is an outstanding GSD conformation Judge, this is a firm opinion of many GSD aficionados throughout the World.
You talk about him awarding VA titles to dogs who are without a progeny parade, so have many other National Breed Wardens. Several SV Judges have awarded top honours to puppies here in the UK. It happens because it can, and some of the VA awards made to such dogs, actually bear fruit, and they go on to become excellent producers.
The leadership illustrated by Reinhardt Meyer has been considered, measured and targeted. He will need at least another 5 years to complete his initial programme of changes to a reasonable level. It should never be forgotten that he also has to tolerate and work with very powerful opposition within the SV hierarchy, they may be a minority, but they are powerful, and they will undermine him and his ideas constantly, and in very underhanded ways, and at every opportunity.
Never forget, rumour is not fact, innuendo is not fact, wishful thinking is not fact, opinion is not fact, hearsay is not fact. Yet all of these will be and have been used against him in various combinations, and frequently referred to as fact.
Do not be influenced by unsubstantiated negative vitriolic comment.
Reinhardt Meyer is an outstanding GSD conformation Judge, this is a firm opinion of many GSD aficionados throughout the World.
You talk about him awarding VA titles to dogs who are without a progeny parade, so have many other National Breed Wardens. Several SV Judges have awarded top honours to puppies here in the UK. It happens because it can, and some of the VA awards made to such dogs, actually bear fruit, and they go on to become excellent producers.
by Mackenzie on 31 October 2009 - 07:10
Good post David.
Mackenzie
Mackenzie
by Jantie on 31 October 2009 - 09:10
Hi David! May I use your own words please? "You are wrong!"
(Would be a very childish argument we'd have, would it not?)
I will not go into a polemic with you David, I respect your opinion and you may have it.
But I of course have mine.
Meyer HAS not and WILL not change anything for this breed.
Should he have done so (after being in office already a couple of years), show me the breeding regulation that points out what he changed for the better please!?
He will just go on throwing sand in our eyes and if only HALF of the allegations of his collegue-judges about the immoral enrichment stand after the trial, it will still damage the SV and its reputation beyond imagination.
Meyer will need a FULL acquittal in order to regain the trust of the people.
And I will personally talk to you when that happens. Take a note!
Go ahead David and defend him, with all of the fairy tales about aficionados around the world. The "good" judges are of course being loved in many other countries when they come to give good placings. MORE gsd-fans go home disappointed. So let's not take that as a point scored for you!
You certainly must have noticed, that the breed has been completely ruined since the Martin bro's let business take control? Business ruins health! And you are in the business with the judges. So you can't really be neutral can you?
The market dictates what you produce, you follow it, give people worldwide what they want, an Ursus-copy, a Rex-copy, a Vegas-puppie!
But you know all that, you are up to your neck in this same business.
History will tell us what Mister Meyer was worth for the breed and for the members.
And from what I anticipate, it doesn't look good.
P.S.: Please tell me David if you have watched the documentary "Schäferhund Pflegefall? The end of a legend."
The denial of both Meyer AND Lux in that TV-document was very poor. I was wondering if we could talk about the film?
It was very interesting, and showed us the image of the GSD from the angle of the "uninvolved".
I was wondering if you had seen it; please let me know, I insist.
(Would be a very childish argument we'd have, would it not?)
I will not go into a polemic with you David, I respect your opinion and you may have it.
But I of course have mine.
Meyer HAS not and WILL not change anything for this breed.
Should he have done so (after being in office already a couple of years), show me the breeding regulation that points out what he changed for the better please!?
He will just go on throwing sand in our eyes and if only HALF of the allegations of his collegue-judges about the immoral enrichment stand after the trial, it will still damage the SV and its reputation beyond imagination.
Meyer will need a FULL acquittal in order to regain the trust of the people.
And I will personally talk to you when that happens. Take a note!
Go ahead David and defend him, with all of the fairy tales about aficionados around the world. The "good" judges are of course being loved in many other countries when they come to give good placings. MORE gsd-fans go home disappointed. So let's not take that as a point scored for you!
You certainly must have noticed, that the breed has been completely ruined since the Martin bro's let business take control? Business ruins health! And you are in the business with the judges. So you can't really be neutral can you?
The market dictates what you produce, you follow it, give people worldwide what they want, an Ursus-copy, a Rex-copy, a Vegas-puppie!
But you know all that, you are up to your neck in this same business.
History will tell us what Mister Meyer was worth for the breed and for the members.
And from what I anticipate, it doesn't look good.
P.S.: Please tell me David if you have watched the documentary "Schäferhund Pflegefall? The end of a legend."
The denial of both Meyer AND Lux in that TV-document was very poor. I was wondering if we could talk about the film?
It was very interesting, and showed us the image of the GSD from the angle of the "uninvolved".
I was wondering if you had seen it; please let me know, I insist.
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