What does HD a-Ausland (a6) mean? - Page 1

Good question - one which I have always been meaning to ask.

In fact I will add my  question to this one if you don't mind

If I used a dog from Belgium, where will I be able to get his 'proper' hip scores? Not the a6 but actual score.

Let me try this:

Just imagine buying a dog in Germany, he/she has got an SZ-number. You take it abroad. Later you have it  x-rayed. As you figure it would be nice to have its score shown in the SV-records, you pass the diagnose along to the SV.

Now the SV refuses to register the diagnoses from abroad (as they are) in all of its statistics, they will just enter HD6 = Ausland (which means so much as "from abroad"). The x-rays for HD6-Ausland can either be A = HD1 or B=HD2 or C=HD3, the latter being a very bad score, as we all know very well.

This practise of course collides with all FCI-regulations, which would demand that the hip-scores are being registered within the SV as they truely are, and as the FCI demands - we all know the charts of evaluation. An A would be an HD1, a B would be an HD2, etc. The secretary of the FCI has written me personally, that indeed they MUST reveal the through FCI-scores. But the SV doesn't!

What do we learn from this? The SV kennel club does what it wants and rules the canine world. (We also must come to the conclusion, that the FCI lacks the power to make the SV obey to the set rules!)

What's the reason behind all of this? The SV kennel club does not want the statistics of HD to appear any worse than they already are. There are many C's (HD3-Noch Zugelassen/still admissable) with the HD6-Ausland diagnoses sent in.

Read all about it on www.bloggen.be/hd

You will encounter the percentages of dogs with HD6-Ausland there in detail.

Bye!

Jantie

For dogs in Belgium we could ask the people from the VVDH (more or less SV-Belgium) or the HD/ED-commission here.
Try me! I've got some connections here.

Such dog should have evaluation done in their country of origin already. You may trust it or you may not trust it. Regardless of A(6). A(6) does not mean a thing to me if it is the only evaluation  which I have on the dog. That is why it is so frustrating to read pedigrees on this www and there is bunch of dogs with A(6) and then I must go and start goggling the dog and do my own research. People if you are putting dogs on this www then try to put there original rating or at least equivalent since we do not have here Czech rating of 0/0, 1/1, 1/2..... available.
Prager (Hans)
http://www.alpinek9.com

Here are some YRs dogs hips. It took me little research. No big deal. No need to be nasty. I'd say they are pretty impressive. Bazza what are your dogs OFA ratings?

TRIPL'H COLA IS OFA EXCELLENT
TRIPL'H ARMA TIAC IS OFA EXCELLENT
TRIPL'H FARAH IS OFA EXCELLENT
TRIPL'H CZUIKER IS OFA FAIR
TRIPL'H ZUZU IS OFA GOOD
TRIPL'H DAX IS OFA GOOD
TRIPL'H BLAIZE IS OFA GOOD
BEAR JEROME IS OFA GOOD
QUEEN VON DER HELD IS OFA GOOD 

Prager Hans

The rating of "a"6 (Ausland) is given to dogs that pass their pelvic (and nowadays elbow) certification in a country whose kennel club does not recognize the S.V., and vice-versa. For dogs that are not German-born and German-bred; if the dog is examined and receives a passing score by the S.V., the dog is entered into the breedbook and the S.V. assigns a registration number to that dog that begins with the numeral "9".

Stateside, the A.K.C. does not recognize the "a" stamp system of the S.V.. They do recognize the registration numbers of the S.V., however.

Perhaps it is about money, and it is definitely about control of the GSD breed. But I think that sounds reasonable, as it is a German dog and the S.V. is a German kennel club.

One would think that a radiograph passed by the O.F.A. would be accepted by the S.V.. It is these days for the purpose of showing - for German-bred and German-born dogs. But to enter the S.V. breedbook the dog must have been evaluated by the S.V. and recieve a passing "a" stamp from the S.V..
 
To keep the ZW system functioning correctly, the S.V. must know the true hip quality by S.V. standards. I think that is another reason why they do not accept the evaluations by other orthopaedic registries. We gripe about it all the time - how does "a" Normal compare to O.F.A. "good" etc., when there seems to be no true correlation between the systems. I think the closest systems today are the ones used by the S.V. and by the F.C.I., who oversees all F.C.I.-recognized kennel clubs including the S.V..

Best Regards,
Bob-O

 

nothing else to say to you or to answer any more of your nonsense.  Very sure you  are far away and do not have not one of my dogs anywhere near you....Go play in the street and take your rubber duckie with you...Vile , nasty , rude and disrespectful , no name , and no face.  A waste of time and effort , that is for sure.  Do not let the last car pass you up.

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Funny :  You are so right  GSD Mommy  he has not time for titlling a dog or working one for sticking his nose into someone elses business

"BAZZA   doesn't have time to title dogs. He is too busy bashing people he doesn't even know and sticking his nose into others business."   quote 

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