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by zigzag on 14 October 2009 - 10:10
Good Morning,
It's that time again I see that Peggysue walker has pups.I hope if anyone is thinking about buying from her please read the threads about her.One of the topics is call breeder ethics.
I promised her I wouldn't let this go.I bought a pup from her full of whip worms and the pup very skiddish.The dog at maturity is 50 lbs. Told her I wanted good size female.
Got ahold of her and then I hear the story NOT MY LITTER SELLING THEM FOR A FRIEND <CHIP WEISS> AND HE DOESN'T SOCAILIZE HIS PUPS.Well Im wondering if chip knows how good of a friend she is to put the blame on him.
Then I hear I'll replace pup just send back the female and when she gets money and new litter she will send pup and pay for shipping.lmao
Well its been almost 1 1/2 yrs and no pup. Go figure.Not holding my breath.lol
And don't let the religous mumble jumble on her site fool you.
If you have any questions feel free to email me.
And to everyone here sorry for bringing this up again but I told her I wouldn't let it rest and seen she has 2 litters and I don't want anyone taken by her .
And Peggysue I'm sure your going to read this so I want you to have a great day.
Oh and since I've bought a pup off her the name of her kennel has changed 3 times.
Thanks
Steve
It's that time again I see that Peggysue walker has pups.I hope if anyone is thinking about buying from her please read the threads about her.One of the topics is call breeder ethics.
I promised her I wouldn't let this go.I bought a pup from her full of whip worms and the pup very skiddish.The dog at maturity is 50 lbs. Told her I wanted good size female.
Got ahold of her and then I hear the story NOT MY LITTER SELLING THEM FOR A FRIEND <CHIP WEISS> AND HE DOESN'T SOCAILIZE HIS PUPS.Well Im wondering if chip knows how good of a friend she is to put the blame on him.
Then I hear I'll replace pup just send back the female and when she gets money and new litter she will send pup and pay for shipping.lmao
Well its been almost 1 1/2 yrs and no pup. Go figure.Not holding my breath.lol
And don't let the religous mumble jumble on her site fool you.
If you have any questions feel free to email me.
And to everyone here sorry for bringing this up again but I told her I wouldn't let it rest and seen she has 2 litters and I don't want anyone taken by her .
And Peggysue I'm sure your going to read this so I want you to have a great day.
Oh and since I've bought a pup off her the name of her kennel has changed 3 times.
Thanks
Steve
by GSDguy08 on 14 October 2009 - 12:10
hmm........
by candis on 14 October 2009 - 16:10
Wow and I called that kennel a few times.. glad all and everything feel through.. thanx for the in-put
by zigzag on 14 October 2009 - 21:10
GSDguy08
hmm........?
Just curious why the hmmm.
Steve
by Mindhunt on 15 October 2009 - 03:10
I had an experience with her a few years back. It was regarding a female pup that was 14 weeks old. It looked like an overweight lab pup, ignored all humans present, would not be enticed by a ball or any other toy, and was very odd acting for a "working line pup from Schutzhund and Michigan State Police bloodlines". When I asked for the pedigree, she gave me a computer printout from some other website where she got her pup's grandfather. I asked for this pup's pedigree again and she said she would provide that and OFAs on the parents when she received the deposit. I told her I was looking for a female to possibly breed to my male after I title her and she said she would prefer I spay this pup and said not all working line dogs make a good dog to title (yes, I know individual pups can vary in a litter). I admit this was my only contact with her face-to-face and I may have gotten in touch with her at a bad time. She seemed pleasant enough and even drove the pup out for me too see, then invited me back to her place at a later date to see the parents on site.
by zigzag on 15 October 2009 - 10:10
My pup came from Naya x Iltis breeding
by German Shepherd Security on 16 October 2009 - 23:10
Hello Zigzag,
I do hope that readers do their own research. I've never met you but I feel I do know you from all of the postings I've read from you. I have a sister to the bitch you purchased from Cimmerian German Shepherds, which you purchased for $500.00. Everyone that knows the breeder "Chip" would tell you that his pups always sold for $1000.00 and not a penny less. Chip will tell you he has had problems with parasites and worms, your puppy was treated with albon and wormed twice by Chip before I took the litter. I did not purchase this litter, I merely helped him list them and he received your $500.00. I have your dogs sister and she weighs 82 lbs. I don't know what happened to your furball, I told you the entire truth about her before you purchased her. Wonderful pedigree but no socializing, she was barely touched when I picked them up at 4 months of age. Chip fell and had a concussion and asked me to take the pups. Would I do it again to help out a friend, yes, but I would be much more selective in who purchased these pups. I wasn't a regular with pedigreedatabase and all of the nonsense you have spread about my pups. If anyone wants the truth about what I produce, please contact Lieutenant Rick Hetu of The Michigan State Police Canine Unit, Special Operations in Lansing, Michigan. They have several of my pups and only one dog in the entire state does speciality tasks, called an "Excellerence Dog" and it's one of my pups. Sorry you have to hang on to things like this Steve, I offered to take her back because she has marvelous genetics. I don't understand the size difference. When you emailed pictures of her she looked very nice in size and you went on and on about how she was coming out of the shyness. Some imported lines become skiddish and it's almost impossible to reverse this lack of socializing with a young adult. Move on Steve, it's not worth the time it takes you to log on.
I do hope that readers do their own research. I've never met you but I feel I do know you from all of the postings I've read from you. I have a sister to the bitch you purchased from Cimmerian German Shepherds, which you purchased for $500.00. Everyone that knows the breeder "Chip" would tell you that his pups always sold for $1000.00 and not a penny less. Chip will tell you he has had problems with parasites and worms, your puppy was treated with albon and wormed twice by Chip before I took the litter. I did not purchase this litter, I merely helped him list them and he received your $500.00. I have your dogs sister and she weighs 82 lbs. I don't know what happened to your furball, I told you the entire truth about her before you purchased her. Wonderful pedigree but no socializing, she was barely touched when I picked them up at 4 months of age. Chip fell and had a concussion and asked me to take the pups. Would I do it again to help out a friend, yes, but I would be much more selective in who purchased these pups. I wasn't a regular with pedigreedatabase and all of the nonsense you have spread about my pups. If anyone wants the truth about what I produce, please contact Lieutenant Rick Hetu of The Michigan State Police Canine Unit, Special Operations in Lansing, Michigan. They have several of my pups and only one dog in the entire state does speciality tasks, called an "Excellerence Dog" and it's one of my pups. Sorry you have to hang on to things like this Steve, I offered to take her back because she has marvelous genetics. I don't understand the size difference. When you emailed pictures of her she looked very nice in size and you went on and on about how she was coming out of the shyness. Some imported lines become skiddish and it's almost impossible to reverse this lack of socializing with a young adult. Move on Steve, it's not worth the time it takes you to log on.
by zigzag on 17 October 2009 - 11:10
Well Good Morning Peggysue,
I told you I wouldn't let this rest.
1st You didn't tell me the pup wasn't socialized till I got her and she was afraid of everything hid in corners and upstairs .
2nd You didn't tell me that you were selling her for a friend till I mentioned her being skiddish.
3rd Yes you did say send pup back as soon as you sell her you pay me back or kick in more money and get another pup.
Ok peggysue I thought I paid 600 for her I could be wrong but you hve to figure in the flight .
pup = 500.
fleight= 350.
vets=150. to get rid of whip worms not easy to rid of.
so we're talking about a grand
so yes it's worth my time to log on and let people know about you.
And it doesn't seem like I'm the only one posting about you just do a search of 1 or all 3 names of your kennel.
I'm just that kind of a person when I promise something I follow through.You could've prevented this by sending me a kind of a pup I was looking for or replacing her when I first got ahold of you by email it wouldn't have made it this far.
Oh and another thing peggysue you keep saying that you sold me the pup for ONLY 500. but if your memorey is so good you should remember telling me that you were giving me a deal because I was looking at another pup from you and
asked you for a couple of days to think about it and yes I think I took 4 days to get back to you.Meanwhile you sold the pup.And you felt bad Now I realize that was a joke.
Steve
I told you I wouldn't let this rest.
1st You didn't tell me the pup wasn't socialized till I got her and she was afraid of everything hid in corners and upstairs .
2nd You didn't tell me that you were selling her for a friend till I mentioned her being skiddish.
3rd Yes you did say send pup back as soon as you sell her you pay me back or kick in more money and get another pup.
Ok peggysue I thought I paid 600 for her I could be wrong but you hve to figure in the flight .
pup = 500.
fleight= 350.
vets=150. to get rid of whip worms not easy to rid of.
so we're talking about a grand
so yes it's worth my time to log on and let people know about you.
And it doesn't seem like I'm the only one posting about you just do a search of 1 or all 3 names of your kennel.
I'm just that kind of a person when I promise something I follow through.You could've prevented this by sending me a kind of a pup I was looking for or replacing her when I first got ahold of you by email it wouldn't have made it this far.
Oh and another thing peggysue you keep saying that you sold me the pup for ONLY 500. but if your memorey is so good you should remember telling me that you were giving me a deal because I was looking at another pup from you and
asked you for a couple of days to think about it and yes I think I took 4 days to get back to you.Meanwhile you sold the pup.And you felt bad Now I realize that was a joke.
Steve
by zigzag on 18 October 2009 - 10:10
wow Peggysue i just checked on commmets you summitted
retired police dog
you tried to help place this dog and the comments people had to say about you and you say I'm the only one talking bad about you and your dogs? lol
Just so you know I've had people email me.They were going to get in contact with you or already have about the litters you have now and I let them know what kind of person you are untrustworthy and told them to do a search here .
You have a great day peggysue
Thanks
Steve
retired police dog
you tried to help place this dog and the comments people had to say about you and you say I'm the only one talking bad about you and your dogs? lol
Just so you know I've had people email me.They were going to get in contact with you or already have about the litters you have now and I let them know what kind of person you are untrustworthy and told them to do a search here .
You have a great day peggysue
Thanks
Steve
by German Shepherd Security on 18 October 2009 - 11:10
Hello Steve (Zigzag),
I hope the following emails refresh your memory, they are from 08' when you already had Zora. Have a nice day and I hope this helps. I didn't say Chip doesn't socialize his pups, but the litter you got Zora from and another litter that was only one day difference out of Iltis/Ginta, was just as skiddish, because of Chip's injury the pups were not handled at all when I picked them up at 4 months of age. I have a bitch out of both litters here. The sister to your bitch is perfect and is one of my greeters, no issues and very large. The Iltis/Ginta bitch is still very timid. By the way Steve, have you ever done a breeding or have you ever sold a pup online or anywhere? Just curious. Have a nice day Steve. PeggySue
Peggysue,
Here it is friday @600 pm and still haven't heard back
from you.I have left messeges on both phones and sent
emails and nothing.If your not going to take her back
please let me know.My phone number is 207-532-5615 if
you want to call me.
Thanks
Steve
--- pwalker002@centurytel.net wrote:
> Hi Steve,
> I have learned through the years, it doesn't matter
> how gimped up a bitch is
> from her childhood lack of socializing, she will
> produce her genetics.
> She will
> produce the incredible heritage she was meant to
> produce. I have a 51
> lb. bitch
> that produces 100 lb. male pups, she is a phenomenal
> bitch. Size doesn't
> matter, you just have to compensate with the stud
> dog. Sometimes a pup comes
> from parents where the rest of the litter is larger.
> Anyway, let me know what
> happens with Zora please. I would pay to ship her
> here and you would pay to
> ship your puppy. Normally the buyer pays for all
> shipping, especiall for the
> price you got Zora at. My dogs go for $1500.00
> without shipping. Take care and
> God Bless You & Yours.. Sincerely, PeggySue
>
> Quoting steve guertin <zigzag40us@yahoo.com>:
>
> > Hello PeggySue,
> > Don't get me wrong she is a good dog.She was
> starting
> > to get social but then right back to scared of
> > everyone.Well i should say real timid.And she's
> about
> > the size of a sheltie.I did give her to an older
> > couple the wife is home alot by herself figured a
> good
> > home for Zora.more or less a trail period if they
> did
> > decide to keep her she is to be fixed.They
> couldn't
> > believe how small she is.She is one of my
> > coworkers.She did get Zora on sunday and she was
> able
> > to spend 2 full days with her everything fine.She
> had
> > to work tuesday so Zora home all alone and guess
> she
> > did have fun with clothes and food and decided to
> mess
> > in house.So I will be talking to her tomorrow and
> I'll
> > see how she did today alone.They can't believe how
> > well she listens when they are home.I really
> didn't
> > think you would get back to me because i even
> called
> > and no response.Sure i could have sold her but she
> > wasn't up to standards.I knew if she went with
> these
> > people she would get a good home.They don't mind
> her
> > timidness because they don't get much company.I
> will
> > see if they are attached to her already if so
> guess my
> > loss.If they decide to return her and i ship her
I hope the following emails refresh your memory, they are from 08' when you already had Zora. Have a nice day and I hope this helps. I didn't say Chip doesn't socialize his pups, but the litter you got Zora from and another litter that was only one day difference out of Iltis/Ginta, was just as skiddish, because of Chip's injury the pups were not handled at all when I picked them up at 4 months of age. I have a bitch out of both litters here. The sister to your bitch is perfect and is one of my greeters, no issues and very large. The Iltis/Ginta bitch is still very timid. By the way Steve, have you ever done a breeding or have you ever sold a pup online or anywhere? Just curious. Have a nice day Steve. PeggySue
Peggysue,
Here it is friday @600 pm and still haven't heard back
from you.I have left messeges on both phones and sent
emails and nothing.If your not going to take her back
please let me know.My phone number is 207-532-5615 if
you want to call me.
Thanks
Steve
--- pwalker002@centurytel.net wrote:
> Hi Steve,
> I have learned through the years, it doesn't matter
> how gimped up a bitch is
> from her childhood lack of socializing, she will
> produce her genetics.
> She will
> produce the incredible heritage she was meant to
> produce. I have a 51
> lb. bitch
> that produces 100 lb. male pups, she is a phenomenal
> bitch. Size doesn't
> matter, you just have to compensate with the stud
> dog. Sometimes a pup comes
> from parents where the rest of the litter is larger.
> Anyway, let me know what
> happens with Zora please. I would pay to ship her
> here and you would pay to
> ship your puppy. Normally the buyer pays for all
> shipping, especiall for the
> price you got Zora at. My dogs go for $1500.00
> without shipping. Take care and
> God Bless You & Yours.. Sincerely, PeggySue
>
> Quoting steve guertin <zigzag40us@yahoo.com>:
>
> > Hello PeggySue,
> > Don't get me wrong she is a good dog.She was
> starting
> > to get social but then right back to scared of
> > everyone.Well i should say real timid.And she's
> about
> > the size of a sheltie.I did give her to an older
> > couple the wife is home alot by herself figured a
> good
> > home for Zora.more or less a trail period if they
> did
> > decide to keep her she is to be fixed.They
> couldn't
> > believe how small she is.She is one of my
> > coworkers.She did get Zora on sunday and she was
> able
> > to spend 2 full days with her everything fine.She
> had
> > to work tuesday so Zora home all alone and guess
> she
> > did have fun with clothes and food and decided to
> mess
> > in house.So I will be talking to her tomorrow and
> I'll
> > see how she did today alone.They can't believe how
> > well she listens when they are home.I really
> didn't
> > think you would get back to me because i even
> called
> > and no response.Sure i could have sold her but she
> > wasn't up to standards.I knew if she went with
> these
> > people she would get a good home.They don't mind
> her
> > timidness because they don't get much company.I
> will
> > see if they are attached to her already if so
> guess my
> > loss.If they decide to return her and i ship her
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