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Any one who didn't go to this seminar really missed out! This is one of the best seminars that I have ever been to! I learned more in 2 days then I have in the past 7 years! Mr. England is truly a great dog trainer!  Watching Mr. England and Debbie work a dog was like watching poetry in motion! I still have goose bumps from watching them work! One of the best week ends that I have spent! If you have a chance to go to one, please do, you will not be disappointed!

Hello. A few followup questions to your post.

How did Gene England seminar help you and your dog specifically?

How old is your dog and how long has he been trained?

Did you notivr any improvements in your dog's bitework after gene worked him? What? How did he work him and how did he overcome problems if any?

how did your dog do on the table?

Has he/she ever been on the table before?

Did Gene go into theory behind his tavble training or did he just line them up and went to work?


What problems have you had in obedience (if any) and how did Debbie help you with them?

What was her advice and did it work?

Anything else you could add about Debbie or Gene working?

If you could offer us any insights or stories or anecgdotes, that would be truly nice, great and appreciated.

Thanks!

Hey Greatestgsd,
I went to the Gene England seminar in August.  It was very interesting and I saw some new things and learned some new techniques.  I always hope to take a few things away from each seminar I go to.  I definately learned some things that I have incorporated into my training.  Gene was very entertaining and knowledgeable.  Now, Debbie Zappia is one of the best people I have ever trained with.  Debbie is absolutely incredible and I would recommend her seminars to anyone interested in any dog sport.  She did a seminar for me in March and it was fantastic.  I've gone to 3 or 4 of her seminars in the past year and she has changed the way I train.  In a word she is awesome. 

My two favorite people for seminars are Debbie Zappia and Bernhard Flinks.  Bernhard did a semianr here in July and he is fantastic.  He is really great also.  Bernhard is great to train with and has a wealth of knowledge of dogs.  His protection work is awesome, he will works dogs all day long and never get tired.  Bernhard's Schutzhund seminar is great, but his police K9 seminar is even better.  He changed the way we track our police dogs and it has been very succesful.  He also raised the bar for our police dogs.  He's a great guy and a lot of fun.  Bernhard is one of the best. 

I would highly recommend attending seminars form Debbie and Bernhard to anyone wishing to go to the next level in dog sports.

Jim 

Suah as? Please share more specific. I was very curious on your take on Gene England seminar last time you posted about it that you are going 3 or 4 months ago.

"It was very interesting and I saw some new things and learned some new techniques."

Hello Adi,
Gene has the ability to "turn on" and "turn off" dogs very quickly.The dogs go from 0 to 60 mph in a split second.  I must say the dogs trained in his program are very impressive.  He explained his theory and his methods then demonstrated them on the dogs at the seminar.  This is not really the place to discuss training methods as many here would not understand the concept.  I will say I saw some of the best GSD's I have ever seen at this seminar, one dog was better than the next.   I saw V rated. SchH 3 working line GSD's with superb conformation and working ability.   Every dog had an exellent temparment and was social, confident and out going.   The Empire Working dog club and people in the New England Region have some exceptional dogs.  Many of the dogs were from Debbie breedings or from females bred to her dogs; as my male is.     

I have used some of the techniques with our PD's K9's and it has worked out well.  It gives the handler the ability to have a calm, confident obedient dog that can be turned on with a simple command and turned off just as quickly.  The main thing is that the dogs intensity is super high. 

Hope that helps, you really need to see it for yourself and I'd advise going to his seminar.

Jim

I actualy AM going, that is why I am asking. Thanks.

I will say I saw some of the best GSD's I have ever seen at this seminar, one dog was better than the next.

Cool, thanks. Also, curious to know, any dogs that were "less than best"  that he worked pm and improved upon?

Any young dogs, less than 2 years of age that he worked there?

Thanks and I appreciate a fast answer you gave me above.

Also, another thing.

Last year maybe there was a discussion here about how most dogs that are not trained to go specifically for the bad guy... How they would in a 2 men fight go to the one who is on the bottom amd "join the fray on the winner's side", even if its their own handler gettign beat up?

Remember that one? Then you said, you'll try it with your dog muzzled on and see what happens? I have stored away that question in my memory to ask you later, might as well spit it out now.

What happened there?

Hey Adi,
When are you going?  There were all levels of dogs there, but most of the people were serious with good dogs.  They worked some young puppies to older dogs who have never done that type of training before.

Yes, the muzzle question.  We have done it several times with the handler on the bottom and the bad guy on top fighting.  We muzzled our dogs and began a ground fight with the handler on the bottom then hit the door popper to deploy the dog.  Yes, the dog engages the guy on the bottom.  Almost every dog hit the handler first and had to be redirected to the "bad guy".  I can honestly say if I'm on a traffic stop and get into a fight with a suspect (it's happened) I'll deploy the dog before the fight goes to the ground.  

We did some evolutions in the training with the handler on the ground and deploying the dog with the decoy standing.  I can say that the first time your dog will target you regardless.  After a few reps it got better.  It's no fun muzzle fighting my dog he can be a bit of an ass in a muzzle, I'm glad I don't have to do it.  

Jim
 

Jim, I am glad that you can write better then me! LOL Your  description is very good, I do have something that really amazed me at the seminar, but I would almost have to write a book to explain it! LOL I did not work a dog at the seminar, my male is to immature to do table work right now.

Jim, thanks for the answers. I will be going whenever Gene makes it to this part of the country. I just heard he'll be doing the seminar here last week. I think he will be in Atlanta, GA sometime soon, then he'll be making a turn here, not sure.

I guess it'll be maybe December, or January, I don't know at this point, but he'll be here and I will too.

About the muzzle question and the dog reactions.... Interesting. I kinda of thoght that would happen, all dogs go down for the weaker guy. I'll have to think about that... Any speculations on your side as to why are dogs doing that?