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by WhatIf on 24 September 2009 - 17:09

If two dogs are mated, one is sable who has sable, bi color, and black dogs in its pedigree, the other is black and tan and has only black and tan in its pedigree.  The color of the puppies should be sable, black and tan, bi color, and black.

Will the color be the typical color or a slight variation of it?

If you know of any dogs that are listed on this website that are a result of a this mating or similar mating, please provide links to their pedigree.

Thanks,
Mike

Prager

by Prager on 24 September 2009 - 23:09

What is "typical color"?
Prager(Hans)
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gagsd4

by gagsd4 on 25 September 2009 - 01:09

Each dog in the GSD breed carries 2 color genes. They get one from the mother, and one from the father. The color genes are, in order of dominance,:
sable, black/tan, bicolor (also considered by some a blk/tan with a modifier), and black.
White is not a color, but a masking gene. There are also dilutes (blue and liver).

"one is sable who has sable, bi color, and black dogs in its pedigree":
This dog carries sable and ONE other gene (sable, blk/tan, bi, or blk) regardless of what is in the pedigree.

"the other is black and tan and has only black and tan in its pedigree. The color of the puppies should be sable, black and tan, bi color, and black."
This dog carries blk/tan and ONE other gene (blk/tan, bi, or blk)

Therefore, if the sable dog also carries a second sable gene, all of the pups will be sable.
If the sable dog carries a blk/tan gene, puppies will be sables and blk/tans.
If the sable dog carries a bi or black gene, then the blk/tan dog would also have to carry that color for puppies to be bi or black. For example, sable dog carries a recessive black gene, and the blk/tan dog carries a recessive blk gene, then you could have sables, blk/tans and blacks.

Will the color be the typical color or a slight variation of it
What is typical?

--Mary

Bucko

by Bucko on 25 September 2009 - 01:09

You may be able to narrow things down.

Is either of the sable dog's parents not sable?

And are you sure there are only b/t in the pedigree of the b/t dog going back 4 generations?

If the sable dog has a non-sable parent (say b/t) and is mated to a b/t dog who is b/t on both sides, then about half your pups will be sable and half b/t.

If the sable gets matched up to a black, instead, the sable may well be darker.  Also true of sable x bi.  Sable x a light b/t or sable x sable may lead to a lighter sable.


by WhatIf on 26 September 2009 - 14:09

Will mating a fading black and tan to a dark sable dog have diffferent result on puppies color than rich pigmented blk/tan with fading sable?





 


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