What is a King Shepherd - Page 1

As far as the breed being just a mutt well weren't all dogs just mutts at first. I owned a King Shepherd he was the best family dog ever. To hear people here slander other breeders shame on you. I would never buy a dog from you. I raise West German shepherd's now.

Do your research on all breeds don't just breed for the money as so many breeders out there do. I am not included in that catagory because I spayed my female last yr cause her hips were bad. I care more about my dogs then I do about the money and making a profit on selling dogs that will carry bad hips, elbows and eyes.

If you are looking for a RARE breed then do look at a King Shepherd they make wonderful pets and they can also be shown.

OMG... Seriously?

A "king Shepherd" is a myth.

There is no such breed.

People started calling the OVERSIDED German Shepherd a "king Shepherd" many years ago, it's ridiculous.

If you are not breeding to standard or to better the breed, you are just as ridiculous.

Get a clue.

Spaying female with bad hips is a mistake because it aggravates the situation. Since 80%+ spayed females get estrogen and thyroid problem which leads to gaining of weight which leads to aggravation of HD.  If you do not want to breed her then do not bred her. :) No spaying necessary for that.
 King shepherds are fine as long as they do not call them GSD.
Prager (Hans)
http://www.alpinek9.com

I agree with Prager on both counts.

1) Neither males nor females should be altered if they have hip or other bone problems, as sex hormones help maintain bone strength and density.

2) There is nothing wrong with creating a new breed as long as it is done healthfully, carefully, and good homes are found for all pups with return guaranteed to breeder until the breed is very well established (as a dog in rescue without purebreed status is doomed).

The King Shepherd shares a common ancestry with the Shiloh. The breed founder was a Shiloh breeder, but wanted to do her own thing. Since she refused to follow the guidelines laid down by Shiloh breed founder, Tina Barber, Tina said she could no longer call her dogs 'Shilohs" She took her to court over the use of the name, and won.

Mrs. Watts-Cross continued to breed her dogs under the breed name "King Shepherds".

However, many unscrupulous breeders sell their oversized GSD's as "King Shepherds", usually without papers, as most people are unaware that the King Shepherd is NOT a GSD.

Here's a link with more info on the breed. They are NOT German Shepherds, as other breeds have been mixed in. There is no Great Pyrenees blood in the Shilohs, though they both share common ancestry with Samson, the Shiloh outrcross that had some giant malemute blood. They are recognized by the American Rare Breed Association (ARBA).

www.trainpetdog.com/King-Shepherd/about-king-shepherd.html

I saw a King Shepherd on YOUtube and it actually looked like a pretty nice dog

Oversized Amero trash, with plush and long coats arent my thing,  but more power to those that like them.

There is quite a bit of difference in developing a new breed and simply taking an existing and well established breed like the GSD and breeding to it's faults (rather than virtues) and then proclaiming a new breed.

Some of these people would make P.T. Barnum very proud.

Rik

I recently purchased a King Shepherd female puppy. They are considered a "rare breed" because they are a breed trying to be recognized. The puppy I have is extremely intelligent, very sweet, athletic and very large. They  typically have a longer coat and have GSD like markings.
King Shepherd owners don't try to pass them off as "big GSDs" either. Every time I read some hostile post implying that King Shepherd owners call them big, long-haired GSDs I laugh. Not one KS breeder I spoke to even made a comparison to GSDs to me.
I bought her as a companion for our 3yr old GSD after loosing our 3 other GSDs in the past 2 years to old age. My GSD was very lonely and I can truthfully say, dogs DO grieve. Honestly, I can't imagine having picked a better companion for our GSD. From the moment we brought the puppy home, they have become inseparable.
I am very happy with my KS puppy and she absolutely is the apple of my German Shepherd's eye.

I think a lot of gsd people are upset that many non-sport puppy buyers want a dog who is large.  Whatever their motivation, non disputandum gusitibus est (there is no accounting for tastes).

If a dog is not going to be used for sport, and especially if the families are non-athletic types who want the look without the work of keeping up with an active dog, then perhaps it is a good thing for them to have a choice of fat, lazy dogs who do not need to work out twice a day.

My 2yo working lines gsd is killing me!  I run with him for an hour a day, train another 45 minutes, and then I still have to throw the ball for a half hour before bed.  For a lot of people, it is much better that their dog not have these drives.  Some sport people take on these dogs and pen them up cruelly.  I would rather see the fat 125 lb couch potato have a good life than the penned up hyperdrive dog.

In my case, I just love the ATHLETICISM of the real gsd, and hate the gallumphy, plodding look of Shilohs and Kings.  But to each his own!

Where do you get they aren't athletic? At 3 1/2 months that puppy can damn near run down my three year old GSD. Why do you seem so defensive about a dog you don't own or care to own? AH,, must be jealous