My public notice
Okay all we use this board to inform each others of great deals and great rip offs. My last great deal was obviously my Hanz. Here is my last great horrible event. I don’t need feedback because it is finally over, but just food for thought in case you are looking.
I saw an ad for a trainer here on the board and asked for any comments on Rentz working dogs. I got one that was a positive response and no negatives so I email him. I sent video of the dog working. After a few emails I went up to North Carolina. When I was there he evaluated Hanz and said that he would train him and get his BH and Sch 1 at his local Schutzhund show in October. I said that would be fine and that was a very long time for me to be away from Hanz. He had offered a loner dog in an email but said that the dog needed an experienced handler. I agreed to take a look. In the end Rentz got my dog and I took the loner unvaccinated loner. Got home vaccinated Trax and went on my merry waiting game. I paid Rentz working dogs 800.00 a month for the next 3 months without issue.  I did take loner dog back BC he was not good with horses and food aggressive.   I would get a quick update when it was time for me to send another 800.00 check.
On September 8 - I sent this email.
Hey, Jeff. I am emailing bc I have some questions and would like an update on Hanz.
Questions:
When is show?
How does it work? Are there places like 1st, 2nd, 3rd?
Can I take him after the show?
Will he be affected by my presence at the show?
Update:
How is he mentally? Physically?
Is he ready for the title?
Did you get the payment?
His response to this was very ambiguous and worried me but it seemed to be more that the Judge that he was going to use passed away. BUT, it did say that he would not be ready for any October show for typical reasons ie not strong enough here yet, needs touch up there. Needs work on strange fields. I then asked very specific questions as to what was going on and was it that the judge passed away or that his talent would not get him the title yet. As some point soon after, I said okay no problem I will go pick him up and bring him to Texas and finish him here. He sent me an email back saying that I was being very disrespectful her talking to a local trainer. I told him that I was not trying to be or sound disrespectful at all and that I was sorry that he felt that way. I also said that I wasn’t accusing him of being a bad trainer, just that I was not prepared to be without Hanz until December and I could not agree to leave him for this new time frame. I told him to get my final bill ready and call me so I could pick up some cash and pay with cash for the final payment. Soon after that I got a phone call from Rentz Working dogs. I again told him that I was sorry that he felt bad and I was not saying that he is a bad trainer, but December was not going to work for me. He could not understand why I wouldn’t just leave Hanz there for the BH instead and I told him that I would just get them together in Texas even if I had to be trained and do it myself. He got very aggravated and when I asked why he said that he put this training into the dog and he wouldn’t be able to show him. He also said if he had know I would not let him go to December he would have taken the dog on. I told him that I paid 2400.00 to him for the time that he had been there and I had made a very large emotional and financial investment in the dog and he did not make his window and there were no hard feelings I just was not going to pursue it right now and not until I could just hang with Hanz for a bit and later I would either pay someone in Texas close to me to finish him out or pay someone to instruct me on how to finish him out myself. He sent me an email confirming a phone conversation and that he would give me the dog when I got to NC

I think I remember talking to you about this...moral of the story...stay in TEXAS>...

YR

Wow, that's difficult.

Did Hanz seem to have been worked with?

Why waste gas going anywhere but to tyler texas and Yellow rose ! I am sure she can provide you with a quality accessment

Let me get this straight. You live in Texas. Yet, despite the number of excellent trainers in that state (probably in your county or neighborhood), you hauled your dog, in your big SUV, to North Carolina to be trained for a Bh and a Sch1 and be entered in a conformation show? With the number of schutzhund clubs in Texas, you sent the dog "out" for training? And, you know so little about training or working YOUR dog, that you have no idea whether there WAS any training???? Another sad tale. Poor dog.

Well, I know Jeff Rentz pretty good and THIS IS NOT typical of him at all!  They guy is a good guy and there are 3 sides to every story!  He is a naitonal level competitor, he breeds some really nice dogs....one went to the BSP even!  This sounds a little cooked up in order to do him damage because you are unhappy!

I wonder if you are the crazy he posted about some where else the other day?


Vickie
www.PowerHausKennels.com

Well, you know what they say about opinions.  This is just a public notice, and I was very, very careful to be truthful win, lose, or draw.  You clearly like his work and that is your opinion.  How many thousands have you paid him?  The whole point is to be able to come on here and ask what other experience with a particular trainer or who ever has been  so that others can make up their own (hopefully informed) minds.  You are clearly a Rentz working dog fan.  I am CLEARLY not after this incident.  We obviously have two different opinions on this matter.

Regards,

W