shilo shepherds are not german shepherds

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by caninecountry09 on 09 September 2009 - 23:09

the shilo other than some simular looks do not compare to the german shepherd they are basically a mutt dog a big mistake they are not as obedient smart loyal or protective as a german shepherd they have no place on the same pedigree database page

by top dog on 10 September 2009 - 00:09

How True, Just and over sized , sespool of a German Shepherd. Another way some people make money off the breed. And anyone that pays big money for these over sized pets. get what they pay for. SH..!!

by Bucko on 10 September 2009 - 01:09

A lot of people believe in the genius of the marketplace. And, obviously, the market is willing to pay for giant german shepherd lookalikes. Why care what they think, anyway? What's the fuss? You can't make people prefer 80 lb males if they want 130 lb males. The only real problem IMO if that they imagine they are getting the working capacities of a real gsd, and they are not.

by MaggieMae on 10 September 2009 - 01:09

Well, l think some are beautiful. They certainly do not look like mutts. It is an individual's decision.

by starrchar on 10 September 2009 - 02:09

I know some people who have them and Shiloh Shepherds do make great family pets. They're much more laid back than GSDs. The ones I know have great temperaments and they are very obedient, loyal and intelligent, but not much drive. They are also very healthy. And yes, they are big. The 3 males my friends have are 100lbs, 105lbs. and 130lbs. I am still perplexed about how the breed was developed. If you read the commentary by Tina Barber, she makes no mention of introducing another breed into the"mix" (unless I missed it), but it is very obvious these dogs were not developed soley from GSD lines. Other info I have read says that the Alaskan Malamute is where they got the size and color from- a lot of them are blk and silver or light sable. I always crack up when I read about these people who have bred for the "Old World" style dog, as Tina Barber mentions and they breed these huge furry dogs. I can't help but wonder where in the world they are getting their info from??!! I must say the Shilohs are clearly NOT GSDs but they are very pretty and intelligent dogs. JMHO
Char

by kitkat3478 on 10 September 2009 - 02:09

The Shiloh, is definately NOT a German Shepherd, as per the name,"Shiloh Shepherd". Tina started her own breed, as she liked the larger Shepherds.
I imagine her goal was not to tread on the German Shepherd standard, while still producing dogs she likes, as well as a great many other people, obviously, there seems to be quite a few of them out there..

And caninecountry09, if you don't like them, don't get them. Quite simple.The Shilohs have been beaten up all over this board already. And, FYI , this is the general dog section of the database, just about anything goes here, should try to keep it dog related, which last time I checked, Shiloh's were still pedigreed dogs.

Sorry, don't mean to seem rude, but, like I said, No One claims Shiloh's to be German, and, if someone gets one, thinking they are getting a big German Shepherd, that's their fault. Do your research before you get a dog, so you,(not you in particular)know what your getting.

And, by the way, I know several people that would beg to differ with you on the Shiloh's.

by Prager on 10 September 2009 - 03:09

Tina Barber on the left.
Shiloh Shepherd was developed by my friend Tina Barber. Her effort was directed to production of large mild tempered dog, which would have an protection deterrent effect ,but would not be dangerous to handle by kids or inexperienced owners. Dog was developed from GSD and some other breeds and resembled GSD. Also the hips are usually much better then in other large breeds thanks to LMX program which was part of Tina's (and my) effort. Nobody claims that they are GSD. Tina single handedly got this breed recognized all over the world in registries and literature. There is friction it SSD group but the true Shilohs are coming from Zion line.
http://www.newzionshilohs.org

http://www.newzionshilohs.org/home.htm
I admire Tina for creation of a new great breed. Any people being condescending to this breed or Tina's effort should be ashamed of them selves.
Prager (Hans)
http://www.alpinek9.com

by luvdemdogs on 10 September 2009 - 03:09

Beautiful dog!!!

by Prager on 10 September 2009 - 04:09

By the way it is SHILOH and not Shilo.

Prager (Hans)

by Sunsilver on 10 September 2009 - 04:09

Thanks, Hans!

And yes, this is the OT section of the messageboard, so we can post topics here about other breeds.

Tina liked the black and silver GSD's. I think there is blood from the Valiantdale kennel in some of Tina's lines. That's one place the colour came from, as well as from the giant malemute outcross, Samson, who was a GSD/giant malemute mix. Other outcrosses were to Hoofprint Orbit, a white GSD, and Artus, an Alte Deutscher Schaferhund. Some of Artus's ancestors are registered on the database here.

The Shilohs were originally all AKC registered GSD's. The split happened in 1990, with the outcross to Samson. Since that date, no true Shiloh shepherd can have AKC papers or be reigstered as a GSD.

Some of the breeders who broke with TIna have continued to cross their dogs with GSD's, thus the confusion about whether these dogs are GSD's or Shiloh Shepherds.

Oh, and Canine Country? If you're going to spout crap about a breed, at LEAST learn to spell the name!

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