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by blair built gsd on 21 July 2009 - 05:07
by Bob McKown on 21 July 2009 - 12:07
I,d never have a dog trainined for myself by some one else but that is just me, This "taking a chance" thing really gets me that is more a sales pitch then any thing else if you do your home work and take your time in selection your chances are just as good as if some one else trainned the dog for you. The other thing that pisses me off is the "puppies are a crap shoot" comments made by people that either can,t train young dogs or are only peddeling older dogs for higher money.

by wlpool on 21 July 2009 - 15:07
Regards,
Wlpool

by Slamdunc on 21 July 2009 - 19:07
Hey Bob,
I think puppies can be a crap shoot. I have always raised and trained my dogs from pups to SchH 3. I don't breed or sell dogs, I just work my own dogs. I do my research before buying a pup and look into lines, sire and dam and other litters produced by these dogs. Even with the best lines, best research and dedication you can still wind up with problems in a litter or pup. You can have bad hips, one testicle, and a host of other physical problems that may not be apparent at 7 weeks. Perhaps the dog won't do bite work or the conformation is not perfect. I have been relatively lucky over the years but I know many people who haven't been so fortunate with puppies. Many top level competitors will only work with 12 - 15 month or older dogs. At that age you pretty much know exactly what you are getting. My next sport dog will probably be a pup, I know I am taking a chance. But I enjoy training and raising my dogs from pups.
JMO FWIW,
Jim
by Haus Simpkins on 21 July 2009 - 20:07
Hes a solid guy
by Bob McKown on 21 July 2009 - 20:07
But there are top competitors out there that lack the abality to shape drives,instill a bond,and teach focus also using the "crap shoot" as the cover for I can,t work a puppy. If all there concerend about is being higest on the podium then fine but don,t call your self a top trainer when your dog comes to you doing a bark and hold,running blinds,tracking, and then some of these guys have the nerve to call there dogs H.O.T. give me a break.

by blair built gsd on 22 July 2009 - 00:07

by Ryanhaus on 22 July 2009 - 14:07
I have dogs with some DDR bloodlines and all are temperament tested and very smart, some of my pups have gone to police officers, and people that work with the disabled for service dog work, is it the way they tend to be a bit stocky looking that you would prefer a west German dog instead?
Right now I am putting obedience & herding titles on them, but I recently got a hold of some great Sch bloodlines, so that's my next venue, there are so many things a GSD can & should be able to do, I would like to try & do alittle of everything with my dogs to see what I have produced.
Your best bet is to ask your local vet for GSD breeders in the area, my vet refers me to people looking for GSD's cause when I leave the vets office everyone still has their fingers, and I didn't have to muzzle my dogs...
Also, take the time to go to a dogshow or a GSD club in your area, ask people in person where they got their dog, never trust the internet without seeing a dog in person from kennels you are interested in, there's a ton of well bred West German dogs out there, one that comes to mind is >>Now mind me....I know very little about West German lines..but.. Olympia kennels seems very reputable, nice dogs, from what I have met in person
That's in my area, I really don't know where you are located......
Good Luck in your search, and remember where your Google Bar is when you are checking things out
by Bob McKown on 22 July 2009 - 18:07
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