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by jaggirl47 on 19 July 2009 - 06:07
Thank you all in advance.
Oh yeah, and my dog's name is Zappa Malachious. No, I didn't name him. My ex-husband is an idiot.

by Sunsilver on 19 July 2009 - 14:07
Oh yeah, and my dog's name is Zappa Malachious. No, I didn't name him. My ex-husband is an idiot.
ROTFLMAO!!
Sorry, couldn't help myself. And he can't spell, either. It should be 'malicious'
ma⋅li⋅cious /məˈlɪʃəs/ [muh-lish-uhs]
–adjective 1. full of, characterized by, or showing malice; malevolent; spiteful: malicious gossip.
2. Law. vicious, wanton, or mischievous in motivation or purpose
Okay, although your boy's pedigree smacks of back yard breeding (no titles on any of the American dogs) it's not as bad as it could be. Yes, there is some inbreeding several generations back, but if you look at the front page of his pedigree, you will notice it says 'no common ancestry in 5 generations'. So, because the inbreeding was so far back, there has been a chance for the harm it may have caused to be reduced by being diluted with new genes from the more recent ancestors.
However, back yard breeders are well-known for breeding one animal to another without carefully analysing their individual strengths and weaknesses. They also do not usually bother with health testing for faults such as hip dysplasia. So, of course, there is no guarantee that he won't inherit some problems.
You say you're taking him to the vet. What problems are you concerned about?
by jaggirl47 on 19 July 2009 - 15:07
So, it isn't supposed to be malicious. It's the name Malachi with an ous on the end to make it Malachious. Like I said, he is an idiot. But I won custody of my boy in the divorce so it all works out. I can live with the bad name.
Zappa has suffered from chronic diarreah and vomiting since the age of 1.5 yrs. He is a large dog who was at 94 lbs (a very healthy weight for him, not overweight at all) and is now down to 71.3 lbs. He goes back to the vet today (my vet is open for a half day on Sundays) and will get reweighed which we have to do biweekly. His last weigh in he went from 74.6 or 8 to 71.3 in 2 weeks. He was tested for EPI with the cTLI test. His result was 7.2, with normal range between 5.7 and 45.2. He was in the low normal range so the vet wants to retest in a few months. He has had more CBC and electrolyte tests than I could count. His serum pH level was 7.48 which as I understand it, that is very high. His last Lipase level was 1726 which is extremely high. His kidneys look great. It's all GI. His last tests that came back are his cobalamine and folate show a normal cobalamine level with a high folate which is indicitive for SIBO. Also, the vet feels he has IBD due to the fact that even though he has a diet switch and has done better, his stools come out green ar light tan and he still suffers from vomiting of greenish-brownish bile
We have done numerous trips to the e-vet for his GI issues (they always like to flare up when his normal vet is closed). He has been given fluids, parvo tests, clavimox, flagyl, stool samples, blood draws, etc. We would always walk out with the diagnosis of pancreatitis when it wasn't, it was GI.
So, now we are finally on the track to treating him properly and getting some weight back on him. Hopefully, no more bloated belly and massive gas and diarreah.
And yes, he was definately from a backyard breeder. I was young (22) and knew I wanted a Shepherd for my son (I was 5 months pregnant). He does have hip displaysia (diagnosed around age 3, definately genetic) which he gets glucosamine for as well as his GI issues. I'm lucky he doesn't have worse things, though. It could be much worse. His parents had shitty temperments (not approachable at all). But I chose him because out of a litter of 12, 11 of them ignored me and he crawled in my lap and fell asleep.
Does his distant ancestry look OK though? I think he has a lot more German blood than the American. He's a beautiful dog with a great temperment, wonderful with my kids. He did have a great drive in him until his GI issues started getting worse.

by Sunsilver on 19 July 2009 - 16:07
A German dog that has its Schutzhund degree has been trained in tracking, obedience and protection work. It is gun-sure (will not spook at a gun shot). If it has KKl1 or 2 after its name, it has been assessed by a breed warden, and certified as being suitable for breeding. It will also have had its hips x-rayed and passed as free of dysplasia (the German A-stamp, which is slightly different from OFA.) If it has a VA rating in front of its name, it has been shown at the annual Sieger show, and been given a rating of 'outstanding'. A 'V' rating means the dog is considered 'Excellent'.
The American dogs in your pedigree have none of this. IF the information you've posted is correct, none have even been titled in obedience, so unless you can meet these dogs in person, you have no idea of what they bring to the table in terms of virtues or faults. And when two dogs mate, the outcome is very unpredictable as to what genes the offspring will inherit. With both of the parents being spooks, you're fortunate your boy turned out as well as he did.
Good luck in solving the GI issues! I hope at least you're on the right track now.
by jaggirl47 on 19 July 2009 - 17:07
by jaggirl47 on 19 July 2009 - 18:07
1972 Sieger Marko vom Cellerland.
VA6 Kai vom Silberbrand, 7 generations back, is the son of Marko vom Cellerland.
Mutz von der Pelztierfarm
V 28 Nick von der Wienerau, 7 generations back
V Palme vom Wildsteiger Land, 6 generations back. Top producing bitch.
VA2 Ulme vom Wildsteiger Land, (Vize-Siegerin), 5 generations back, son of Palme vom Wildersteiger, part of "U" litter Vom Wildsteiger Land
VA2 Quanto von der Wienerau
1980's-1990's, his progeny dominated successive Seiger shows
regarded as top sire of his generation, 7 generations back
V1 Canto von der Wienerau, had lose hocks and haemophilia, but a top producing stud
V2 Argus vom Klämmle, 7 generations back
V1 Argus von Aducht, comsidered to be one of the best specimens of the breed in any era, 6 generations back
It is very obvious to me that my boy gets his looks through V Palme vom Wildsteiger Land line. However, looks are not everything when careless breeders get ahold of these amazing lines. It's sickening and they end up with unkown traits and genetic illnesses.

by blair built gsd on 22 July 2009 - 02:07
by jaggirl47 on 22 July 2009 - 03:07
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