CZECH OR DDR? - Page 1

WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE CZECH AND DDR WORKING DOGS? IN TEMPERAMENT , HEALTH,ABILITY OF WORK ?

My opinion from limited knowlege........

Czech--you get some prey drive and a little nerve so you at least have something to work with. The good ones are very nice dogs.

DDR--Garbage

I know I just offended olskool

Again this is limited knowlege. I was never into GSD's so never paid attention to bloodlines until the last couple of years.

I have worked one dog that was predominatley DDR that was worth a shit. I liked that dog ALOT! One in over 10 years (that I know of cuz like I said, never paid attention).

So for whatever that was worth........

Personally I have found that no matter what "lines" you look at....it comes back to the individual dog or an individual breeding that really works. There is so much crap out there that you have to sort through. I have had and do have both Czech and DDR line dogs. There are differences but those differences dont matter as much as finding the individual that has the combination of characteristics that You or I as individuals prefer. I have seen some West working line dogs that I really like and I have seen some Czech dogs I really like. Given the ultra small genepool DDR lines have to draw from....it is extremely hard to find a really strong working dog from those lines. Czech is easier but they come with there own unique indiosynchrocies be it good or bad. My advice is do the best you can with research and then just do the best you can with the dog you end up with.

Now if you really want to know the differences I see in the two. Czech dogs dont handle stress all that well. They can be worked through it usually but it takes forever. DDR dogs handle stress much differently and can be worked through it much quicker. Czech can be sharper depending on the breeding and DDR are usually more territorial. It takes a lot more pressure to bring out defense in a DDR dog. This is just my personal experience. I have lately seen more west working lines that catch my eye than DDR or Czech and Ill take a decent Mali over any of them.

There are good dogs in czech, ddr, west.  Unfortunately, dogs are only limited in ability by handlers and helpers.  I have handled and owned many super dogs out of all of them.  I had a bi-colored czech bitch, import, Bena od Volfu. Emil z PS X Majka Z Dudakova(Kaso z PS X Jana z PS) daughter.  Super bitch!!  Great nerves, tough, brave, strong!!  A real dog!  I have a DDR pup here now, which I am raising for Al Gill.  Breath taking, blk sable, male, 5 mos.  Solid nerves, melanistic blk. sable, big ball drive, good balance of prey/civil, with a good calmness, appropriately.  This puppy is a pleasure to train and one I would own.  I can't say that for many dogs I train or raise for others. There are more good dogs than there are good owners and trainers!!

Unfortunately, dogs are only limited in ability by handlers and helpers........

I believe genetics has a little to do with it?

Genetics certainly have lots to do with it.  However, you can put a mediocre dog with a good trainer and management, and the end product will be much better than an exceptional dog witha mediocre trainer.  IMO, very few dogs are ever used to their full potential.  I get great satisfaction in my dogs understanding each task far beyond the basic exercise.  My numero uno rule is....don't do anything to hurt the relationship with your dog.  Anyone who knows me will tell you how extreme I am about that. No one loves a great pedigree more than myself....as long as it comes with a great dog, with a handler/trainer who will stimulate the learning process to the nth degree.  My philosophy is to make a dog want to do things...not make them do things.  A famous man once said.....the german shepherd dog should find joy in the work!  I thoroughly believe in that.

Czech wired? Noooooooooo lol. They have something up their a..... so they don't feel comfortable sitting around lol. hahahaha. Chech dogs you either love it or hate it. When you tired then you will def. hate it lol because they don't get the concept of being tired lol. I love my chech but than she is mix not full chech. ;)