I've heard a lot of people talk about dogs being fear-biters and if really there was something to happen in the house like a robbery or home invasion the dog would not attack?

Especially with other breeds people saying that they are not good protection dogs and can't be trained? How? I've seeing a lot of dogs rottweilers, doberman, german shepherds, pit bulls, Presa Canarios, and If I went into their yard they would tear me to shreds even though they probably didn't get protection training?

I just don't understand why people keep saying that if somebody actually came to the house the dog would get scared and back off?! I've seeing dogs that hadn't any training at all trying to lash and going crazy trying to jump the fence to attack just because somebody walked past the house.

you'd be suprised how many of those dogs that are vicous behind the fence aren't when you take the fence away.  Or if you do cross it, they back up and act just as ferocious, but stay far enough away they won't hurt you and more importantly you can't hurt them.  and if they feel pressured, they'll leave themselves an out and take off to save themselves.  Some, if you aren't threatening will act viscous and when that doesn't work and they find themselves put into a position where they can't run, and they're too afraid to bite cause it might actually piss you off and make you more threatening, they go into avoidance and calming behaviors in an instant.  You have much to learn about dogs and their behaviors, not every dog barking behind a fence is a killer, and not every dog laying and half asleep is a push over.

Ask any meter reader how many dogs raise hell, but then run to the back of the yard when they actually enter.   Which is why I had to put a padlock on my gate to keep meter readers out. I have always had at least one dog that wasn't a bluffer!

Remember I had an Electric meter man jump  my fence month before last...He found me, as I quickly put two shepherds up...I would have been charged with dogs out of control and biting a meter man...He was chastised by me, got defensive, so I had him call his boss, who tole me ,,they hve the right to come on my property any time to service their equipment... I told them , over my dead body, and the next time he came in it might be the body bag he wore to get out..

The man had no uniform or identifying  shirt on,,,and he did get remanded to his truck for that.

My dogs don't back down, but this man said he would hae maced them and he would not  have died.....not gonna sit around and wait for death......I put another sign up and told the Electric company....I have a phone and  you do not need to read my meter...they are read inthe office...so you call before you come to my property.....Unless I call you and open my gate , do not cross it..

What would you  have thought if you looked up and saw a Black man , with blue jeans, tee shirt and paper in hands , jumping over your fence at 2 pm  in midday?

I usually have my 38 special near by but I had two dogs out , so I stuck them in a nearby shutdown kennel....all I had to do was open it...if he was intending to do me harm  but crooks give you no time to act so I will not put them up the second time.

Fear biters tend to bite people from behind or sneak up and attack when not looking and they run in circles...not really confident with their actions....kind of like they are confused...but they will grab you if you try to stop them....They usually will let the crook just go right on in......not confident to follow thru to stop the two legged ones....

Good answers you all

Well, how do you explain dog attacks then? like with rottweiler's, pitbulls, presa canario. It seems like they're not scared and cause fatal injures. Yes some of them might be bluffs but a lot of them aren't bluffs and will attack.

I recently read about that diane whipple case and the said that the male dog had such play drive that he bit her 77 times.

Do you think like traditional breeds that were bred for guarding are more likely to attack for real without any training since it's their instinct?

It's just hard to believe that a large size dog that is going nuts would back down if I got into his yard. I mean they look very convincing...

the male dog had such play drive that he bit her 77 times.

If you call that "play drive" I invite you to check out the "play drive" of the Great White Sharks off the coast of Australia!  That was absolutely unprovoked, long-standingly uncorrected true - AGGRESSION, NOT play drive!

not every dog with crap temperment is a "fear biter" some are for real.  But really it doesn't matter to me, I'm not going to jump anyone's fence or fuck with any dogs "just to see".  That's stupid if you ask me.  so cockapoo or rottweiler, it doesn't matter which is barking behind I fence I'll probably just ignore it and move on about my day.

zdog,

I totally agree with you. I was just wondering because they seem crazy as very serious. I am not going to try it either though and jump the fence and have the dog be actually for real and attack me.

Okie,

That's what I read online in a few articles. They said the male dog had play drive which caused him to keep biting and what not. Of course I agree with you that he also had aggression. The female dog had really no aggression because she really didn't bite her she was just pulling on her clothes.

Crazy, how some dogs look very conviencing and very intiminating. But it's hard really to know unless you go face to face with them, lol.

I had a 15 pound terrier when I was a kid that I sic'd on people on two separate occassions.  She had no formal training, and I knew she wouldn't actually bite, but she did a great bark and hold just based on the inflection in my voice. 

RFS

MJD80

Beings your new to all this I will give you some very good free advice.

If the dog is barking in a very high pitch, and going back wards or sidewase to your position when you aproach he is not likely to bite you, while you are faceing him. Unless you corner him. If you turn away he is more likely to chase and bark at you or bite the back of your leg or heel.

If he has a low deep chesty bark or growl and is not giving any ground or he is stareing you down he will likely bite you if you approach any further.

And if he is bouncing off the fence and trying to pull at the fence or jumping up high close to eye level with you, and looking into your eyes and snapping his jaws, he will likely eat your ass up.

There is not enough time for me to explain all the body language of a dog.  Or how to read it. As to where his head is, eyes and ears and tail are positioned. And even knowing that some will still trick you if your not getting a clear sign. Just stick with the obvious for now. And remember they dont have a blackbelt or badge on to warn you how bad they are. Use common sence and dont get youself into a situation that you dont have an advantage or an out if need be. All dog trainers get bit eventually by a dog they miss read. If they do it for any length of time that is. Most have at least one really good story of the one they got an education from. And the scars to prove it.

just my thoughts, mahon