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by Ibrahim on 15 May 2009 - 19:05
I often notice that when you guys talk or discuss a dog, like when some one asks your opinion on a specific dog you ask for the pedigree link, or sometimes you tell some one (check the pedigree), etc.
I know it is a wide field but please at least briefly tell me when you study a pedigree what do you look for (do you count how many VA)? what makes a difference? what hits you first when you see a pedigree? what gets you interested to keep digging? and last what makes you decide the dog is not worth it so you stop looking?
If an ordinary person wants to buy a quality puppy, what should he look for in the pedigree?
If there are two choices in front of you, one looks extremely good, the other looks ordinary but his or her pedigree is great which one you choose?
Great: we will learn later what it really means from your answers.
Regards
by Sunsilver on 15 May 2009 - 19:05
As for good pedigree vs good looking, well, that's a tough question!
There's much more to a dog than looks, though. I'd evaluate its temperment and drives as well. It would also depend on what I wanted to do with the dog. If I'm going to show, obviously appearance is important. If I primarly want to do schutzhund or personal protection, then appearances won't matter so much as long as the dog has working soundness.
If there are no titles in the pedigree, going back several generations, I'd be inclined to pass on the dog, as it's probably from a backyard breeder. It would depend a lot on the dog itself, though. A dog doesn't even have to have a pedigree to do sport!
by Uber Land on 15 May 2009 - 19:05
the # of VA's on a pedigree does not make the dog great, or better than one whose pedigree is mainly V dogs.
when I see a pedigree, I look for dogs that I know were good producers, had a good health production record, I look at their parents, siblings, cousins ect. I like to see dogs who weren't just pretty and winners in the ring, but also had good working character and drives. I check for ZW #'s, I prefer lower #'s, and I prefer a pedigree with mostly "A" normal hips. too many a2 or NZ's and I look else where.
it takes alot of time to learn what to look for on paper, the best thing is talking to people with first hand knowledge of the dogs and lines. an old breeder is the most valuable tool you can have at your disposal when just starting out. someone who knows and is willing to share the good and bad points of the dogs and lines.
by Ibrahim on 15 May 2009 - 19:05
1. titles
2.structure
3.Good producers
4.Health
5.To be on the safe side as a beginner (Consult a trustworthy knowledgable person such as an old breeder)
Anything else????
by jletcher18 on 15 May 2009 - 19:05
trustworthy and knowledgable yes.
there are breeders who have done this for a long time, and i still wouldnt buy a dog from them. how long they have done it is not as important as other factors.
another piece of advice. go to some clubs in your area. even if your not looking to join. most of the people there are knowledgable about the different lines of dogs, as well as good and bad breeders.
john
by Liesjers on 15 May 2009 - 19:05
Another thing to look at is linebreeding.
Specifically on this site, you can see user's comments (though many need to be taken with a grain of salt...).
Besides looking at progeny, I also look at littermates/siblings and see what they are up to.
Ultimately I need to see something in front of me before I decide what dog to get. I need to see at least one of the parents, see how they interact when just being a dog, and see their work and training.
by Ibrahim on 15 May 2009 - 19:05
My country Jordan is a very small country in the Middle East, there are no official clubs till this date, (sorry for that) but this is the fact, we have no breeders here, when we buy a puppy we either get it from Germany or Ukrane. GSD lovers know each other and get together every now and then but no one is of real experience.
by Bob McKown on 15 May 2009 - 20:05
Good luck with building your knowledge and enjoy your dogs and never never stop asking questions.
by Ibrahim on 15 May 2009 - 21:05
Thanks a lot, what you say is encouraging.
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