Question On Registration...Non-GSD - Page 1

Hi,

It's been a while since I posted, but I have a question, on my stepson's behalf. 

He purchased an Alaskan Malamute female from a breeder, and was told when he inquired about the litter, that the gray females (which is what he was interested in) were $950.  These dogs are from AKC registered stock.  He placed a deposit on a pup, but when he arrived at the kennel a few weeks later to pick up the pup, he was informed that  he would have to pay a total of $1500 dollars for the pup, instead of the $950 he'd been told the pup would cost him.  He paid the extra, and brought the dog home, thinking the breeder would send the AKC puppy application in the mail a few days later, after he'd chosen a name for the pup.

He told me a week ago that when he talked to the breeder about the AKC application, she told him that he hadn't paid enough for "the papers" and that he needed to pay more for them.  Something sounds fishy to me, but as he's an adult and I had no part of the transaction, I can't really get involved.  My stepson is concerned that she will register his dog in her name, which I don't think she can legally do, having sold the pup, but I suppose anything's possible.  What's the opinion?

I know there are a lot of breeders here, and although the dog I'm talking about isn't a GSD, the principles are the same, I'd think.  She was paid for the dog, but the papers are in question.  There was, apparently, no discussion of limited versus full registration, nor of a spay agreement, although he will likely get her spayed.  He intends to do weight pulling competition when she is big enough to start training without a risk of harming her hips and elbows, and isn't certain if he will have to have registration for her in order to do that.  In any case, regardless of what he does, he would like to have her registered with the AKC, even if it is only a limited reg.

Is it commonplace for a breeder to not mention that you are paying x-amount of dollars for an unregistered dog, and then want more money before they'll give you the papers? 

My only experience with buying a purebred dog was when I bought my GSD Prince, who graces my avatar.  And I left, that day, with his registration application in hand, along with the shot record and pedigree.  I've never heard of this situation, and I'm not sure what to recommend to him.  Can anyone suggest a solution?

Thanks

Crys

You might "try" contacting AKC. You might also "try" to contact your district attorny's office. More money for paperwork could be percieved as extortion depending on your state law. Unfortunately, sounds to me like your son got ripped.

At first it was $950, than jumped to $1500, now more??!    Would the breeder take the pup back and refund the money?  Might be worth a try.

I know how your  stepson feels, but she really sounds a tad bit shady.  There are lots of other pups out there, although, when I was that age,,, and older!  my heart ruled my head.  Live and learn I guess.    What makes him think she'll register it in her name?

He has just told me that the reason he feels this way is that the breeder really badly wants him to bring his dog back when she is mature so that she can breed a litter of pups from her, as she says that this dog is one of the finest she's bred.  Also, he got the impression from what she's said that she's getting ready to do some kind of registration on his dog, but he isn't sure what is going on exactly.  I suppose it might also be because she won't give him the papers unless he gives her more money.  But I told him that I couldn't see her doing that, because it wouldn't make much sense.  He's got witnesses to the fact that he purchased this dog  from her.  In fact, he went with his grandparents over to pick her up, so he's got two more witnesses to the fact that he paid for the dog.  In fact, when they got there, he was under the impression that he was to pay an additional $450 for the dog, having already sent her Bank Cashier's check for the $500 deposit.   Then he found out that he had to pay an additional $1000 for the dog, instead of the agreed upon $450.  He had to borrow the money from his grandparents on the spot to be able to pay for the pup in full, and he handed over $1000 that day.

Seems really fishy to me.

An email I sent to the AKC regarding this last night was met with a generic response thanking me for my interest and promising an answer to my questions soon, along with an admonition not to send multiple emails to them, or it would delay a response to me. 

Doesn't AKC have a breeder database that you can search, or a way that you can search for individual dogs in their database?  The last time I dealt with AKC, was before the age of all the Internet stuff, and so I'm not real sure what they do and don't have available.  I certainly couldn't find the kennel listed in the breeder classifieds on the AKC site.

Crys

Just got a response from AKC...They say they do not register dogs based on kennels, and so cannot tell me anything about the kennel in question.  They tell me they can't help us on this, and that we should contact the BBB.  I see why people get so fired up complaining about the Kennel Clubs of their respective countries.  They rake in the money from registrations, but don't seem to have any responsibility to the people they register dogs for.

I guess it's time to contact a few governmental agencies...

Crys