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by Jantie on 08 April 2009 - 09:04

I have found this for you on: http://pfoetchenblog.wordpress.com/2009/03/26/betrifft-pflegefall-schaeferhund/

It’s a short summary of the TV program "Shepherd Dog, nursing case?!"

A quick translation:

"The authors of the „betrifft*”-program aired 25.03.09 on SWR (one of the most important television networks in Germany) have targeted the German Shepherd Dog, its breeders, the breeding Kennel Club (SV), its officials and the breeding judges.

(* = “betrifft“ means more or less „concerning“ or „with regard to“, it is then followed by any particular theme)

First of all the health problems of this breed were laid out - to the critical spectator it might just have been obvious that the GSD was selected exemplarily. The reason for that is that the Shepherd Dog is outnumbering any other dog breed held in Germany and therefore will demonstrate very clearly where it leads to, if in breeding one places special emphasis on beauty ideals.

Along with that however, one also referred to other grievances. The former characteristics defining a GSD such as drive, resilience and self-assurance (poise) have faded out into the background so that as a service dog for the police, the customs and the federal border guards, he has left the field to other dog breeds, such as the Belgian Shepherd Dog (Malinois), considered to have more drive and resilience and be more healthy altogether....

Entire text + link to the documentary (which will soon be off-line) here: http://www.bloggen.be/hd/archief.php?ID=272618

Wishing you all a health GSD, I remain, yours truly, Jan


by Gustav on 08 April 2009 - 12:04

Jante, thank you for the article for informational purposes....the people who want Geran Shepherds because of what they were created for already know this information...the people who want the dog for asthetic purposes will never accept this and try to tear it down. That's why the RSV will thrive but we have to let time take its course just like it has in America with the American show shepherd. The direction is the same, the methodology is the same, and the result will eventually be the same. There is no need to debate this issue any longer from my point of view because it always gets ugly, but lets keep people informed and see how this story unfolds ten years from now.

Videx

by Videx on 08 April 2009 - 14:04

 presumption is no substitute for facts! The jury is out regarding the RSV, I will observe with interest.

by Jantie on 08 April 2009 - 14:04

@ Gustav: Hi there! As I said on my Weblog I am not pleased witnessing the GSD Kennel Club splits in two. Just like there is only 1 GSD, I think there should only be 1 Kennel Club. If the management of the SV had not allowed big business to happen, and if a competent and firm president had set out the course, this all would never have happened. But its no use crying over spilled milk. I still hope that current events and (bad) publicity will force the management to act on behalf of the real GSD.

@ David: Hello David, always nice to witness your efforts to strive for a healthier GSD and a correct standard. Would you please explain the sentence: "The jury is out regarding the RSV". English not being my mother tongue, the meaning of it escapes my mind totally. Would be nice if you would elaborate just a little so I can understand what you are saying. Thanks in advance! And good luck this season!

Jantie

UrsulaGSD

by UrsulaGSD on 09 April 2009 - 06:04

http://www.swr.de/betrifft/schaeferhund-zucht-tiermedizin/-/id=98466/did=4506134/pv=video/gp1=4658760/nid=98466/1jk4cx5/index.html
This is really important. There has to be some truth in it. Super dogs come and go - and change radically when new godfathers enter ......

Vom Brunhaus

by Vom Brunhaus on 09 April 2009 - 11:04

Jantie, what David means with jury is out (means a decision will be coming, or forthcoming) jury // a group of people making a decision on a certain matter before them,  in this case the RSV issue.  regards, VB

Vom Brunhaus

by Vom Brunhaus on 09 April 2009 - 11:04

Jantie, what David means with jury is out (means a decision will be coming, or forthcoming) jury // a group of people making a decision on a certain matter before them,  in this case the RSV issue.  regards, VB

by Gustav on 09 April 2009 - 11:04

the fact is they have acheived their goal of standing with VDH......trust me if their concerns are overstated and misleading, and their desire to strengthen the breed is misguided, then I "presume" they will fade into the sunset as GSD people and people who use GSD vocationally, will quickly see their lack of product. After all a performance item that doesn't perform will eventually shrivel up ....just look at the American car industry....same principle and it took thirty some years but as performance declined, in contrast to the "working import cars", eventually more and more people started going to the cars with the better performance and better price....now look who's in trouble......and the irony is thirty years ago the big three was so big  and so encompassing that they could not conceive the next thirty years or the abandonment of the American people. Time tells all!

by Patiala on 09 April 2009 - 20:04

Hi Jantie:

Thank you for bringing the video documentary to everybody's attention.  Basically, everything they have said in the docementary is correct, just a bit exaggerated, to dramatize the message.  Our beloved breed of dogs is going through problems very similar to another breed which becomes popular very quickly.  Because of the demand brought in by the popularity, the german shepherd breeding has  become cottage industry and irresponsible, and inexperienced people have started breeding dogs indiscrimately to supplement their income.  The breeding trends are dictated by the popularity as opposed to the breed values.  Different groups of people are pulling the breed apart by breeding them for specific traits as opposed to the essence of the german shepherd dog.  A balanced dog is becoming extinct because we want bigger heads, larger bone, darker pigment, and more effortless gait in the show shepherd without any regard for the speed, quickness, stamina, jaw strength, natural energy, leaping ability, courage, strong nerves, and fighting instinct.  We want to hide the health problems, and take care of deficiencies by medical procedures because there is a lot of money at stake.  The typical "working dog" breeder is not much better.  The dogs rarely acknowledge any stress.  The aggression is over possession of the object as opposed to the stress put in by the stick hits or any other threats.  There is hardly any scenting ability required to solve the track because everything is so visible.  We have started breeding dogs who have anatomy to bite full because there is so much of emphasis placed on full bites as opposed to hard bits and strong fight.  The aggression and guarding ability are becoming a rare traits.  The dogs are bred for short bursts of speed as a result  the muscles are not as lean and the legs are short.  I can go on and on but the purpose is not to discuss the problems but to offer solutions.  And the best solution is to promote correct german shepherds and incorporate them into the breeding programs more and more so they can leave their types of animals as a part of the genepool. 

One such dog from the show breeding standpoint is V Mexx vom Aurelius, SchH3.  This dog is correct in anatomy, the titles are legit, has good character, and has the lowest ZW number in Germany as a result of his own progeny.  Mexx has always been praised for his working ability at every seigeer or regional show.  This is a very balanced dog who in my opinion has a lot to offer to our friends who like black and red colored dogs and in my sincere opinion, SV should be promoting this type of dog more aggressively.

Ajay Singh
www.ajaysingh.com

by Jantie on 10 April 2009 - 10:04

Thanks VB for your kind explanation, and good point Gustav!

Your assessment Ajay, is very impressive (as always) and correct!
I would like to copy it to my website if you'd let me (of course whilest stating the source. Elementary!)
Please advise!
Jan Demeyere (www.bloggen.be/hd)





 


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