Picture taking at Events - discussion - Page 1

First I want to say that I don't post often, but I read the board fairly often.

Next, I don't know the person or club involved in the recent posts.

I just wanted to have a discussion or maybe make a few suggestions.

I have been to all types of events; car racing (local to national events), snowmobile racing (local to national events), horse shows (local to national level events) and never was I told as a spectator that I couldn't take pictures.  I even had competitors see me taking pictures and ask if I could take pictures of them and gave me their contact information.  Some of the events had protographers but we were still allowed to take pictures.

I know all sports or events have their own rules, but if you are a club putting on an event then if you are not doing so it might be a good idea to have a fairly large sign stating that no camera's are allowed. 

Honestly the first dog event that I went to I would have brought my camer and taken pictures, but I had read on a board that it isn't allowed.  So I am sure there are others out there who don't know the rule of no pictures. 

Just a few thoughts of mine.

Val M.

I'm with you Val.  I was kinda shocked that there was an issue around taking photos.  I would have assumed that it would be encouraged, rather than discouraged. 

I, too attend racing events and always bring my camera. 

If someone at a public event came up to me swearing about taking photos, I'd suspect there was something wrong with him emotionally, and I might tell him to pound sand and snap a photo of him, LOL!

But now I hear there's somekind of strange protocol at these events......

I am not saying it is a strange protocol, it is just a little out of the norm for what some people are use to.  I am not here to start a war just to point out that for some people it isn't even given and thought to picture taking isn't allowed. 

So a simple answer to the problem might be to have a sign stating no picture taking where spectators enter the grounds.

Val

Val/luvdemdogs,
The issue that people have with photos/videos is the aftermath they can cause.  The political price not only for a club but those individuals and/or kennels who are competeing in can be very high. 

If I am filming at a trial and I film a canine who is stepped on very badly and comes off the sleeve and I only post the part showing the dog coming off....................

Second guessing of the judges decision (which is final....at least the last time I looked).

Im sure there are 100 more reasons these are the first two that came to mind. 

Chris Orkies
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  If the judge's decision is final - then photos don't matter.  Besides, I was thinking of the onlooker photographer - someone that is simply interested and taking photos. 

I don't think you can put internal politics onto bystanders with no pony in the race. 

How do you know who has ponies and who does not?  These are just some commone reasons. 

Chris Orkies
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vom GrimOrkie
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well, imo public place + open sport = free to take photos

There is NO social taboo against taking photos at a public and open venue.... 

How do you know who has ponies and who does not?

good question.   in this day and age it seems everyone has a pony, or a stake of some sort in one.

so lets ask for a little legal advice.   what does the law say about taking photos at an event. 

if its on my personal property then i would think i  have the say of what can and cant be done.   if its a public area, i believe anyone can take photos and do with them as they like.

any lawyers out there who would like to chime in would be greatly appreciated.

john

Chris,

I have no problem with the rule of no pic or video.  I just think that maybe at times there are people who aren't aware of the policy.  So if that is the clubs or event policy, no problem post it for people to see.  Then if they break the rule, get security and escort them off the property after they have erased what the took pics or video of. 

I understand the problems that can occur.  I had a snowmobile race organization where scoring was done electronically, we had teams bring video to the race director showing their driver crossed first.  Problem with most of the the pics or video was at the wrong angle.  So I understand what can happen.

Val

Clearly I do not know all the details that precipitated this discussion in the first place, so I will share my perspective as an amateur photographer who loves to take photos at trainig/trials to work on my technique. At a trial or seminar, I always ask the handler whether or not it's going to upset them if I'm taking photos, cuz some people get twice as nervous when a camera is on them. What I have seen over the years is that the only folks who object to photography are the ones that KNOW that their dogs have ISSUES and are expected to make an ass out of themselves in a particular phase. Personally I am glad that I have taken photos of folks both doing well in a trial, and bombing royally, so that I have a clear visual of what the difference is between these two performances.