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by happyday on 25 March 2009 - 20:03
It sounds very interesting to me.... I would be interested to know what you do to get started with a young dog of 13 months in herding. And how would I evaluate my girl to know if she would be cut out for herding... I really dont like muttin.. nor do I wish her to kill anything - Nor do I wish to see a ram kill my dog...Not sure what to expect.... I do also have a male puppy -11 wks - but the mention of Fero line - I believe is in his line - not sure it is same line Mystere is refering to - but I would like him to be well rounded as well. Sounds like herding would be fun...

by Mystere on 25 March 2009 - 20:03


btw-- there are oodles of Urans, lots of Axels, Vopos, a couple of Lords, but there is only one Fero.

In my area, there are herding places that are run by folks certified to test herding instinct. One, perhaps the biggest and best-known is Ewe-topia (Ewe=U, get it? ). There are a couple of other places, too, but I have never been to those. Check out the Ewe-topia website, www.ewetopia.com. There are often breed clubs, even schutzhund clubs, that host the HIT (herding instinct test) at Ewe-topia throughout the year. One can also make arrangements to go down solo. At one time, they even had "herding camp" so you sent your dog down there for boarding and herding, while you went on vacation. Don't know if they still do that. I am sure you can find something comparable in Alabama--with all the space and green I saw down there, there is bound to be some place for it.

by katjo74 on 25 March 2009 - 23:03
Some bloodlines have higher prey drive, and dogs taught to work in schutzhund often aren't done so until they are HGHed first(herding titled). This way they don't try to apply their biting from SchH to sheep.
Some bloodlines are more privy to herding, but all GSDs should have some degree of herding ability (note: I said they should, not that they DO).
Google your area and search for Herding Instinct testing and see if any such opportunities will be in your area. You can enter your girl into such and see how she does. Also check with reputable local schutzhund clubs and ask them if they know of anyone who has sheep and trains for herding. It's a little more difficult to find herding places than it is schutzhund, so be patient & thorough in your search. That might help you.
by happyday on 25 March 2009 - 23:03

by Mystere on 26 March 2009 - 00:03
Your bitch is essentially show lines, with a couple working line dogs thrown in on both parents. NO reason why any dog can't do some herding. It's based on prey drive. No prey drive-no eat. No eat-- no survival. There have been papillons tested in herding.
The one I have in mind also once put gsds, rotties and a dobie to SHAME in a TDX trial--the pap was the only one to pass!
by happyday on 26 March 2009 - 00:03

by Mystere on 26 March 2009 - 00:03

I understand that the German herders liked to see pups that actually did grap the sheep, not necessarily chase them around. But, I have never heard that from a German sheep herder, so...

Check with a local sheltie, Australian shepherd or border collie club. I bet they know where you could take your dog for the herding instinct test.
by happyday on 26 March 2009 - 00:03
by jayne241 on 26 March 2009 - 00:03
by olskoolgsds on 26 March 2009 - 06:03
If I had it to do over, I would have started her off on some real serious socializing with the sheep until she understood they were not for her own amusement, and I would have started her younger. So my very limited knowledge of sheep herding is that prey drive is a must, but must be under control and should start at a younger age. So good luck happyday and do some research before you jump into it. I had been told by the trainer to let her go in the pen the first day to see her reactions, but hindsight tells me that was a mistake.
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