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by blair built gsd on 25 March 2009 - 05:03

Tell me what everyone thinks are the best schH dogs hard or aggresive or flat out mean. Do they become that way after years of training. Ididnt think so myself but i keep reading post were people are saying the dog sent the handler to the hospital or they were known to be biters.

by Brandi on 25 March 2009 - 07:03

If a dog bites its handler, it is usually a high-arche issue. I don't believe in any dog; Police dog, SchH dog, whatever, biting it's handler/owner/hand that feeds him. It is unacceptable behavior and should be corrected. An "handler-easy" dog is also a good dog, to me the better one. He will function with more stability, solid nerve, and stable state of mind realizing he doesn't always have to fight its handler. Also, it is not the dog to always be blamed. It could be the handler that caused the dog to react as well. There are some very bad owners/ handlers that mistreat their dog during training, etc. If I were a dog and was mistreated I'd bite the shit out-a him too. : )
There is a lot to add to your post, this is just a bit.
Brandi

by blair built gsd on 26 March 2009 - 05:03

I just want to know if the best schH dogs have got a higher than normal agressive side it would make a little bit of since that a more agressive dog would take to the bit and protection work and granted it would have to be controlable i understand that nobody should want a uncontrolable agresive dog

by MygsdRebel on 26 March 2009 - 07:03

I don't think that's true at all. I've got one hell of a dog, and he is the easiest to be around. He loves being with me, on the bed, couch. Begs for food like any normal dog. But, if anyone breaks into the house in the middle of the night, or threatens me or my family, my boy'll be right there to help us. Just because he's your protector or competition dog doesn't mean he can't be your best friend. He isn't handler aggressive at all. I could crank him on the pinch all day ( I don't actually do that! Haha. ) And he'd never raise a tooth in defense. But if someone else did it to him, he may not be so forgiving. I raised him from a pup. Alot of issues you hear about may come from a dog you buy as an adult. Give him a hard correction, and he may decide he doesnt like it or it was unfair, and because he doesnt have that bond with you, he may bite you. Or it's just a handler aggressive dog.

-Emily

by blair built gsd on 27 March 2009 - 05:03

I agree i think you have to have a great bond with your dog and if you have that you will be fine but what about people who kennel there dogs i know that would be a good topic for another thread but do you think you can have that kind of bond with a dog you are only with a couple hours a day max

by SchHBabe on 27 March 2009 - 20:03

Anybody who says that a good SchH dog has to be a handler-aggressive "mean" dog is full of crap. Many good sport dogs are easy to handle and work happily and willingly together with their handlers. Yes, many of these dogs have high drives and are "pushy" but to assume that they are all nasty monster dogs is just bunk. Many dogs at the high levels are "hard" dogs as you say, but that doesn't mean they are aggressive towards their handlers. There's a lot of misinformation and misinterpretation out there... -Yvette

by Kalibeck on 27 March 2009 - 22:03

A lot of these dogs that get bad reputations as handler aggressive seem to have had a lot of different owners/handlers, so did that make them very hard? Or is that hardness why they got passed around so much? While I think that it's possible for dogs to have psychosis & abnormal behaviours, I believe that for the most part, some person was responcible for these behaviours to begin with. A hard, intelligent dog doesn't need the kind of agitation you hear of some trainers giving dogs, & I guess a smart, hard dog wouldn't put up with too much stupidity before he reacted & gave a 'correction' of his own. I'm no expert, never titled a dog.....there are very many folks here endlessly more qualified than I to discuss this with, but I have to admit, I empathize with the dog. Whenever I hear a 'dog bites handler' story, my first thought is 'what were they doing to deserve that?' If only our dogs could talk, oh, the tails they'd tell! jh

by Bob McKown on 27 March 2009 - 22:03

blair:

I am intrested in your opinion or definition of "hard"

by habanaro on 27 March 2009 - 22:03

A hard dog is not nessasarily sharp, or handler aggressive, it may take a more serious correction to get the dogs attention but as long as you are a fair handler and fair with your corrections you generally wont have a problem. JMO

by 4pack on 27 March 2009 - 22:03

Aggressive- no
assertive/pushy-yes

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