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by Elkoorr on 24 March 2009 - 19:03
Does anyone know if there are rules or regulations exists to the type of bicycle used for the AD testing?
Since an accident I have a mobility handicap that makes it very difficult for me to ride a regular bicycle. I still would like to do the AD myself and consider a tricycle instead. Would that be acceptable from the judges view?
Also, I did read trough the regulations for the AD, but could not find info on the bicycle part, as well as more specific info on the type of terrain. It only stated that the dog should be tested on different type of terrain. It did not include if the test area should be reasonable even terrain or that it should not include any steep hills or so. Can someone elaborate on that please?
thanks!
Since an accident I have a mobility handicap that makes it very difficult for me to ride a regular bicycle. I still would like to do the AD myself and consider a tricycle instead. Would that be acceptable from the judges view?
Also, I did read trough the regulations for the AD, but could not find info on the bicycle part, as well as more specific info on the type of terrain. It only stated that the dog should be tested on different type of terrain. It did not include if the test area should be reasonable even terrain or that it should not include any steep hills or so. Can someone elaborate on that please?
thanks!
by hodie on 24 March 2009 - 20:03
The terrain is normally a flat area, and can be dirt or grass. In rare cases, I have seen ADs done where there was a grass path near a bike path. I have never seen an AD run where there were hills. The purpose is to see if the dog has endurance, not if the dog is a super athlete.
The rules specifically prohibit motorized bikes, ATVs etc., etc. I have asked about that since I am disabled as well and cannot ride a bike (and almost cannot walk at this point). I would write the organization in which you plan to do the AD and specifically ask if a tricycle would be allowed. Frankly, I cannot imagine why they would not allow it, except that if you cannot complete the AD in a specified time period, your dog would not pass. And I think this is the real issue with a trike. The general idea about speed is that you probably have to ride at a pace of about 7-9 mph, depending on the size of the dog. You are just trotting the dog, but I am not sure you could ride a trike at such a pace as this. Further, depending on where the AD is held and the number of participants, safety of the other riders and dogs might be an issue since a trike is slower and larger and wider.
The easier thing to do is simply have someone else do it for you.
Good luck.
The rules specifically prohibit motorized bikes, ATVs etc., etc. I have asked about that since I am disabled as well and cannot ride a bike (and almost cannot walk at this point). I would write the organization in which you plan to do the AD and specifically ask if a tricycle would be allowed. Frankly, I cannot imagine why they would not allow it, except that if you cannot complete the AD in a specified time period, your dog would not pass. And I think this is the real issue with a trike. The general idea about speed is that you probably have to ride at a pace of about 7-9 mph, depending on the size of the dog. You are just trotting the dog, but I am not sure you could ride a trike at such a pace as this. Further, depending on where the AD is held and the number of participants, safety of the other riders and dogs might be an issue since a trike is slower and larger and wider.
The easier thing to do is simply have someone else do it for you.
Good luck.
by Kalibeck on 24 March 2009 - 20:03
Yes, I have wrangled with this as well, hoping that once my knee is better I would be able to accomplish this, but I'm going to have to pay someone else to do it, I guess. Unless they'd someday consider a stationary bike & a treadmill?
jh
jh
by Mystere on 24 March 2009 - 20:03
ADs are normally done on flat terrain, no hills or gullies.
Where are you located? In the US, per the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) individuals with handicaps must be accommodated in sporting events. The accommodation must be reasonable. For example, blind schutzhund competitors have been allowed to have individuals speaking on either side of the field, as they went down the field during the blind search to help the competitor keep in the middle of the field. Others have been permitted to use ATVs in tracking events, or motorized wheelchairs in the entire trial.
I have asthma, and apprise judges of the condition, if trialing under conditions that might trigger my asthma (pollen in spring, ragweed, etc. in the fall, or cold). I have been allowed on a few occasions to take a brief (2-3 minute or so) break during the heeling portion of the OB to take a hit off an inhaler and catch my breath. It has never been an issue in the US or Canada.
Where are you located? In the US, per the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) individuals with handicaps must be accommodated in sporting events. The accommodation must be reasonable. For example, blind schutzhund competitors have been allowed to have individuals speaking on either side of the field, as they went down the field during the blind search to help the competitor keep in the middle of the field. Others have been permitted to use ATVs in tracking events, or motorized wheelchairs in the entire trial.
I have asthma, and apprise judges of the condition, if trialing under conditions that might trigger my asthma (pollen in spring, ragweed, etc. in the fall, or cold). I have been allowed on a few occasions to take a brief (2-3 minute or so) break during the heeling portion of the OB to take a hit off an inhaler and catch my breath. It has never been an issue in the US or Canada.
by Elkoorr on 24 March 2009 - 21:03
Thanks for the quick response I am in the US. Just dont want to find out that I cant after I paid the fee and am ready to go...lol I dont think keeping up the speed would be a big problem. The tricycle I am looking at is called DiBlasi R32. Its a 5 gear speed; the track width is 26 inches, tires are 20 inches, folds completely and therefor is easy to take anywhere. Overall its not outrageous huge like some of the versions you can buy. Growing up in east germany, single speed was in, having a gear was a luxery.
Even tho paying someone would be the easiest thing to do, I have alot of pride in doing things myself. Many of my co-workers dont even know that I have a handicap until they see me limbing slowly down the hallway on a bad day. Ibuprofen....my friend and helper.....LOL
Mystere, I have a problem with running also. I defenitely will have to tell the Judge upfront not to judge my "running" style. Good to know that they are acceptable of limitations.
I am in the US. Just dont want to find out that I cant after I paid the fee and am ready to go...lol I dont think keeping up the speed would be a big problem. The tricycle I am looking at is called DiBlasi R32. Its a 5 gear speed; the track width is 26 inches, tires are 20 inches, folds completely and therefor is easy to take anywhere. Overall its not outrageous huge like some of the versions you can buy. Growing up in east germany, single speed was in, having a gear was a luxery.Even tho paying someone would be the easiest thing to do, I have alot of pride in doing things myself. Many of my co-workers dont even know that I have a handicap until they see me limbing slowly down the hallway on a bad day. Ibuprofen....my friend and helper.....LOL
Mystere, I have a problem with running also. I defenitely will have to tell the Judge upfront not to judge my "running" style. Good to know that they are acceptable of limitations.
by LynOD on 24 March 2009 - 21:03
Where can I find info on the AD?? Do you have a link? I exercise my dogs on my bike, this might be something we could be successful with. Thanks for any info you can offer
Lyn
Lyn
by Elkoorr on 25 March 2009 - 02:03
Lyn, here is one:
www.gsdca-wda.org/forms/GSDCA-WDA%20TRIAL%20REGULATIONS%20-%20Rev%20111008.pdf
Go all the way to page 73.
www.gsdca-wda.org/forms/GSDCA-WDA%20TRIAL%20REGULATIONS%20-%20Rev%20111008.pdf
Go all the way to page 73.
by LynOD on 25 March 2009 - 16:03
Thank You
by Horse30189 on 25 March 2009 - 17:03
If you can ride a Trike, Trikes are now more than able to do 7-9 mph +. There are a variety of Trikes that are newly designed and engineered to reach speeds similar to a hybrid bicycle or even a road bike. It all depends on the Tricycle as well.
Your standard tricycle from several years ago would be a little more difficult.
Your standard tricycle from several years ago would be a little more difficult.
by steve1 on 26 March 2009 - 08:03
At my age i am not going to ride a bike again the last time i did ride a bike some 40 years ago, i took out a 2m fence panel and finished up sitting in a rose bed, never again,
i will get some one else to do the riding for me, just let them take the dog on the bike a few times, Me i will get Marcel the pakkwerker to AD Goran in the spring, i will sit back at the end on the course relaxing and sipping a Pincher, then take the accolade for the Dog passing,
Steve
i will get some one else to do the riding for me, just let them take the dog on the bike a few times, Me i will get Marcel the pakkwerker to AD Goran in the spring, i will sit back at the end on the course relaxing and sipping a Pincher, then take the accolade for the Dog passing,
Steve
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