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by Xeph on 09 February 2010 - 07:02
I'm just looking for some general information on this line of dogs. Do any of you have anything that you could share with me?
Also, any info that you could provide on Paska, Ellex, and Branko?
Also, any info that you could provide on Paska, Ellex, and Branko?
by Kreiger on 09 February 2010 - 12:02
I don't think there is such a thing as a Satzablick line.I find it would be easier to select the dog that Satzablick owns that best suits your taste and research that.
I feel you have the breeders that breed for a cause in the breed or for better lack of words,there own version of what the breed should be and to establish there own line per say.Then you have the other breeder that breeds solely for work purposes and not too worried about fixing issues as long as they get what they were looking for.
I feel you have the breeders that breed for a cause in the breed or for better lack of words,there own version of what the breed should be and to establish there own line per say.Then you have the other breeder that breeds solely for work purposes and not too worried about fixing issues as long as they get what they were looking for.
by Jen_j41 on 09 February 2010 - 14:02
which category does Saltztalblick fall under? IYO?
by tntk9 on 09 February 2010 - 15:02
my paska son is a strong , powerful dog in training and real life.
by Jen_j41 on 09 February 2010 - 16:02
can you post paskas pedigree?
by Xeph on 09 February 2010 - 19:02
Paska's Pedigree
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/126254.html
Paska, Ellex, and Branko are the boys I like, and they have the Salztalblick suffix, but if I'm incorrect in thinking that the kennel owner has his own line going, I apologize. I just like the looks of the dogs and have heard a few good things about them.
I love his bitches, Esly, Nandy, Onja, Gunde, and Pinja
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/126254.html
Paska, Ellex, and Branko are the boys I like, and they have the Salztalblick suffix, but if I'm incorrect in thinking that the kennel owner has his own line going, I apologize. I just like the looks of the dogs and have heard a few good things about them.
I love his bitches, Esly, Nandy, Onja, Gunde, and Pinja
by K9 motivation on 10 February 2010 - 02:02
I have a 17 month old female out of Branko salztalblick. She is wonderful! She is however ALOT of dog to deal with. She is absolute joy to train.
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/590375.html
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/590375.html
by Gustav on 10 February 2010 - 02:02
The Salzatablick dogs have evolved over the past twenty years, IMO. They used to be noted for being very hard, even handler hard, with good conformation, but a dog to go to put some hardness in your breeding. Similar to Korbelbach dogs of the past. Today , I find these dogs to have very high levels of conformation in many cases, excellent working characteristics and still a very nice dog.
by Xeph on 10 February 2010 - 03:02
Gustav, you see the same things I do, which is why I like the looks of the so much. I personally feel they have exemplary structure...something that is lacking in a few workin glines.
by Silbersee on 10 February 2010 - 23:02
Hi Gustav,
Willi Mueller breeds a lot of dogs. That is why there are three different kennel names (Salztalblick, Haus Salztalblick and Salztalhoehe). The SV limits the amount of litters a breeder can do in a year. Most of his notable dogs come through his foundation females: Hella Mutzbach, Bora Granit Rose, Nandi Jungen Hansen and a couple others.
I have talked to him a couple of times on the phone and he does have strong beliefs regarding health and conformation. Certain bloodlines would not be added to his program due to health issues and some things worry him (lack of stop and overall conformation in workinglines etc.).
While I can't say anything about Branko and Ellex other than that they are halfbrothers and do not really represent Willi's foundation stock at all, I certainly can say a lot about Paska.
Paska was a producer of conformation and 70% of his surveyed progeny was in KKL1. He himself was a dominant dog and a bit handler, ehm problematic. That is the reason he was not in competitions. Unfortunately, he died at a younger age due to a nasty injury. My girl was one of the last females bred to him. Paska left some nice daughters like Haika Salztalblick (who I saw an the 2008 BSP in Baunatal with memorable protection work) and a few striking sons who will hopefully (or have already) step up into his shoes, like Faro Xazziam, Unkas Riedschlurgi (both owned by Salztalblick), our homebred Onyx vom Silbersee and Nolan vom alten Wingertshaus.
What I got out of my Paska-breeding was nice angulation and a more plushy stock coat. A lot of workinglines have the more common short stockcoat. Interestingly, quite a few nice Paska-children are linebred (distantly) on Arek Stoffelblick. Both of my Paska-children are V-rated. We liked it so much that we took their mother to Paska-son Nolan vom alten Wingertshaus and had 3 nice females in that litter with lots of bone and personality. They will be 5 months old tomorrow. One was a beautiful long stockcoat, the other is co-owned with my girlfriend in Idaho and Uschi is still here with us. As Paska-granddaughters, I expect them to have the same attributes. They also add Buster vom Adelmannsfelder Land with Nolan's motherline.
Here is Uschi a couple of days ago (the photos are not the greatest but I am trying to show her topline and angulation at 4 months):
Willi Mueller breeds a lot of dogs. That is why there are three different kennel names (Salztalblick, Haus Salztalblick and Salztalhoehe). The SV limits the amount of litters a breeder can do in a year. Most of his notable dogs come through his foundation females: Hella Mutzbach, Bora Granit Rose, Nandi Jungen Hansen and a couple others.
I have talked to him a couple of times on the phone and he does have strong beliefs regarding health and conformation. Certain bloodlines would not be added to his program due to health issues and some things worry him (lack of stop and overall conformation in workinglines etc.).
While I can't say anything about Branko and Ellex other than that they are halfbrothers and do not really represent Willi's foundation stock at all, I certainly can say a lot about Paska.
Paska was a producer of conformation and 70% of his surveyed progeny was in KKL1. He himself was a dominant dog and a bit handler, ehm problematic. That is the reason he was not in competitions. Unfortunately, he died at a younger age due to a nasty injury. My girl was one of the last females bred to him. Paska left some nice daughters like Haika Salztalblick (who I saw an the 2008 BSP in Baunatal with memorable protection work) and a few striking sons who will hopefully (or have already) step up into his shoes, like Faro Xazziam, Unkas Riedschlurgi (both owned by Salztalblick), our homebred Onyx vom Silbersee and Nolan vom alten Wingertshaus.
What I got out of my Paska-breeding was nice angulation and a more plushy stock coat. A lot of workinglines have the more common short stockcoat. Interestingly, quite a few nice Paska-children are linebred (distantly) on Arek Stoffelblick. Both of my Paska-children are V-rated. We liked it so much that we took their mother to Paska-son Nolan vom alten Wingertshaus and had 3 nice females in that litter with lots of bone and personality. They will be 5 months old tomorrow. One was a beautiful long stockcoat, the other is co-owned with my girlfriend in Idaho and Uschi is still here with us. As Paska-granddaughters, I expect them to have the same attributes. They also add Buster vom Adelmannsfelder Land with Nolan's motherline.
Here is Uschi a couple of days ago (the photos are not the greatest but I am trying to show her topline and angulation at 4 months):
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