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by kool on 11 March 2009 - 05:03

my dog has always been aggressive towards any dogs.
she is 22mos old now and since the day i got her i took her to puppy class for socialization and that's all.
even though from the day i got her upto puppy class she never get along with other dogs.
is it her behavior....or is it my lack of socializing her....
she is the only dog in my house and also i never took with any other dog just play with me and train.
i usually take her for hike off leash during weekends and when any dog approaches i had to put her on leash and hold her tight.
i've tried off leash her infront of dogs and sniffs then after few seconds my dog tries to attack and growl. i've tried few times during my hike and everytime she does the same and even once she chased. so nowadays, i put on her leash if any dog approaches.

but if there's any humans whether its bicycling or running or hiking she completely ignores them and follow me all the time.
its only problem with the dogs.

i don't think its right behavior and if  so i'd like to know best possible ways that i can train would be really great to hear.

thanks much




Two Moons

by Two Moons on 11 March 2009 - 06:03

I'd keep her on a leash to avoid trouble thats for sure.   It could cost you more than you can afford to pay.
You could even lose your dog more ways than one.
I can't believe I would say this but you might consider a shock collar.. um I mean an e-collar.
You would need helpers and set up different situations and I would let someone else operate the device, someone who knows when and how much.   The dog knows who press's the button.

Its just the way of some dogs, I don't think it was a lack of socializing the dog.

 


Sue-Ann

by Sue-Ann on 11 March 2009 - 09:03

electricity for dog aggression too often makes things even worse.  I do not recommend this.  For aggression one needs to be able to read body language and go from there.  It's impossible to give good advice without seeing 1st hand exactly what is going on.  You need to consult an accomplished trainer and work directly with them.  Beware, not all trainers are worth their salt.

Rezkat5

by Rezkat5 on 11 March 2009 - 09:03

Good call to keep her on leash..

And it is hard to say exactly what to do without seeing it first hand.

One thing to consider is to just plain old improve her obedience, so that she's worried about you more vs. the other dog.

Fine if you don't like the other dogs, but you still need to behave around them.

I let my older bitch get away with that sort of behavior when she was younger and it was a lot harder to "fix."

 

Now that know better, any future dogs it's not allowed at all.  Just a pet peeve maybe.  For some reason I think that it can be fairly common among GSD females!  They don't call them bitches for nothing! 



Kathy

 


by AnjaBlue on 11 March 2009 - 12:03

Yes, it's a problem, and it doesn't go away as they get older - at least that's my experience. Our last GSD was wonderful in every respect - except that he was dominant and obnoxious around other dogs (male and female, it didn't matter.) I found places to walk where there were no other dogs (or very few) and large parks where I could put distance between us. It's no way to live, and I said never again.... the girl we have now doesn't like other dogs, and can be testy if they come close enough. I always carry treats with me, to distract her, and we do some obedience along the way. She is on (a 15 ft, so that she has some room to run around) leash at all times - the fact that you are having to put your leash on and off and then "hold tightly", is, in my opinion, making things worse. I had a trainer tell me once that "everything goes down to the end of the leash", meaning that your anxiety and fear of what your dog is going to do is picked up immediately by your girl. Unless you are absolutely positive you aren't going to run into another canine I'd leave the leash on. And try to stay as calm and relaxed as possible - this is the hard part!! I would also get her into a good group obedience class(NOT Petsmart) - she needs to understand in no uncertain terms that she may not LIKE other dogs but she must BEHAVE around them.

july9000

by july9000 on 11 March 2009 - 12:03

 Kool,

Usually..agression towards other dogs comes from a lack of communication skills.  At what age did you have her?? Was she an only pup in a litter?  Was she separated early from other dogs?

I would suggest not to use e-collar on this type of agression (can reinforce the behavior)..If this was a dog I had to train I would first of all put a muzzle on her and begin by introducing a friendly and stable male (male because there is never a conflict of hierarchy between male and female..only same sex) (not excited just plain calm andd not to interested in her).  This will aloud her to sniff the other one without being able to bite. When she comes down you introduce another one..etc..then if she looks ok you take off the muzzle.  This may take a while and you have to be very careful with what dog you introduce her. Never do that on a leash or a close environnement..better outside in a medium fenced area.

Dogs learns a lot of things from other dogs..there is not a greater teacher for a dog than a calm and steady dog..or a balance pack. I have 6 females at home (4 GSd and 2 airedale) and 2 males..It's not a female things.  My females get along just fine..they have their conflicts but never turns to agression to resolves them..Body language is the key..if a dog don't know how to communicate and don't understand what the other in front wants to tell you..then you have dog agression..good luck


ShelleyR

by ShelleyR on 11 March 2009 - 17:03

Sorry, but I don't put up with a lot of dog aggression. I cloud up and rain on my dog at the first indication they are about to go off. It isn't pretty either. A tight leash just makes them worse IMExp, and e-collars can make it MUCH worse, depending on the dog. I want the dog to know that brutal correction came from ME. MY opinion is the only one that should matter. This is NOT a democracy, let alone a show run by the dog.
I'm getting old but I can still pick a dog up by both scruffs and throw it on its back when the occasion arises. Its not about the other dog and whatever issues other dogs might inspire. Its all about ME.

SS

Two Moons

by Two Moons on 11 March 2009 - 17:03

I respect everyones opinion here, and I may well be wrong to suggest an e-collar, but you hear stories everyday about dog fights and people getting bit trying to break them up, animals needing medical care from wounds even dogs killed by other dogs.
I think its a serious problem and I'm not sure its just an obedience problem that can be easily corrected.
I hope you find better answers than I offered simply to avoid harm to everyones animals and yourself.

I'm like Shelley I don't tolerate some things and a storm is putting it mildly.   I would not appreciate someone elses animal causing harm to mine either.

Kool,

Whatever you decide just put yourself in the other dog owners shoes and take steps to avoid a problem.

Moons.


by kool on 12 March 2009 - 03:03

thank you all for your best suggestions as always.
these days i usually let her sit and watch other dogs pass by in the trails.
but eventually, i'll take suggestion as to introduce to her with very friendly male dog if possible ifnot i'll try to avoid as possible.
she isn't hard dog.
only gets aggressive after she sniffs and seems she likes to dominate especially small dogs......
there were 7 puppies including her and i got her when she was 10weeks old. but i tried quite a bit when she was puppy always backsup with dogs and barks at them. just dont' know....besides she is the only dog at home.







 


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