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by lookin4ppgsd on 04 March 2009 - 16:03

We have a 4 week old pups whom we've had to hand raise. We've started to wean the litter a bit and give them mush. The  one puppy can't keep any kind of "solid" food down. We've tried a bit of pumpkin and some of the mush the other pups are eatting .She's gaining weight and playing like the others and when the food is put in front of her she wants to eat it. When we've given her a little bit 5 mins later she throws it back up. The only thing she can stomach is the formula. Any ideas will be helpful
Oh and we have a vet appt later today.

 Thanks in advance


Oskar1

by Oskar1 on 04 March 2009 - 17:03

What about the Mom ?
How many pups ?
Why are there problems at the age of 4 weeks ? What was before that ?
A lot of questions, it seems that here are not very responsible breeders at work, but for the sake of the pups, lets try to help.
Ulli

july9000

by july9000 on 04 March 2009 - 17:03

 Hummm...try to feed it with the bowl on a table so it's head is not down...

Have it check for megaoesophagus..it's one of the symptoms...Good l
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by Stateline Canine Training on 04 March 2009 - 17:03

I second that...sounds like megaoesophagus

by lookin4ppgsd on 04 March 2009 - 18:03

Thanks for your replies
to answer your questions ullie

9 pups Shes the only one with an issue
The mother was a first time mom (she 5 years old) her milk was bad.

Yes it started at 4 weeks because thats when we started to wean them. The pup takes the milk with no problem she just can't seem to handle more solid foods.



We are very responsable breeders. If i wanted you to try and bash me for not being "responsible" i would have asked. We don't breed just to breed and for money. We breed to produce quality hunting dogs.  Each of these pups has a home waiting since day 3. The breeding is a great line. We take the time to research the background of the sire and know the dams. Keep in mind these are labs. The sire is OFA Excellent The dam is OFA Good. We've done extensive research on the lineage of the parents. Both are clear of  genetic diseases. Both dogs are working/ hunting dogs. Sire is FC champ Dam is almost a FC champ.  And just for your info even though the dam is of a great blood line and accomplished feild trial dog. We've decided not to breed her again.  So don't sit there and tell me i'm not a responsible breeder.If i wasn't responsible i wouldn't be taking the pup to the vet and spending the money on just 1 pup..  I stand behind my pups and dogs 100% Can you say the same? All's i want to do is get this puppy healthy. If we can get her better we are keeping her not giving her away.

Mystere

by Mystere on 04 March 2009 - 18:03

 Just a question:  what do you mean by the dam's milk being "bad."   What was wrong with it?   Sorry, not a breeder and  just never heard of that before.



I am sure Ulli meant no insult.  Please understand that not more than a few months ago, a "breeder"put his bitch's delivery on streaming video and we had to watch and hear  a bitch clearly in distress, worried that the poor thing was going to die and this went on and on and on and on....  I had to stop watching, as it was extremely upsetting.   Someone  from the US finally got his contact information and called the police in the distant country to get the dog some help.  It was extremely upsetting, and has made a lot of us very sensitive to , if not fearful of,  anything that even remotely hints of a similar experience.   I am sure there was no offense intended.

by kioanes on 04 March 2009 - 19:03

several years ago i had a pup that acted like the OP describes (active, happy, threw up the softened kibble).  he was checked by the vet, no detectable problems.  i kept him on the weaning mush for a couple more weeks (he didn't throw up when he ate this), and then he was fine. 

by lookin4ppgsd on 04 March 2009 - 20:03

Just got back from the vet. Turns out the little girl has Persistant right aortic arch. Not sure what we're gonna end up doing. Vet says its a birth defect and it's not genetic.


 Mystere when i said bad milk i mean it was sour not good for the pups


Mystere

by Mystere on 04 March 2009 - 20:03

 I hope everything turns out well.  Anything with "aorta" in in sounds pretty ominous.  

UrsulaGSD

by UrsulaGSD on 04 March 2009 - 21:03

Megaoesophagus is an option, but as the puppy reached 4 weeks without major problems, she has a good chance. It can get worse or better, she may become almost normal, only take care what to feed her (life long). Anyway, I hope it is something else.
This is said to be a genetic problem, but can also be caused by poison (neighbour in my case). The fact is that there was an impact during the development of the foetus. Likewise, I had a problem with cleft palate ..... (poison given by the vet: corticoids). I wonder wether this produced a mutation in the affected animal, but this is another question.





 


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