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Kinolog

by Kinolog on 02 March 2009 - 18:03

New Animal Protection Bill has been passed that allows an animal control officer or police officer to take a dog without a warrant if he/she "witnesses" the animal being abused/neglected (or in "imminent danger" of being abused/neglected.) The owner would need to go to court to have the animal returned.

Does anyone know more about this?

Could this possibly come down to an officer's word against a dog owner's if they can arbitrarily take dogs without a third party getting involved?

We have had local police making small talk with us when they see us with our dogs. But it takes on a new meaning when you figure in the green-eyed monster and you have a police department where they take advantage of their authority to do as they please.

I just heard of a police officer telling someone with a service K-9 (in reference to the dog he was admiring) "I know where to get him now." Taking someone's service dog is like taking their wheel chair. That would be a pretty low thing to do should it happen!

It would be lovely if the world were such an ideal place in which no person or animal was ever abused, and if the police never abused their authority. Checks and balances are put in place for a reason.  
 


by Kandi on 02 March 2009 - 19:03

I think the Police have better things to do than collect people's dogs without a valid reason.

snajper69

by snajper69 on 02 March 2009 - 21:03

Not in Stamford, CT lol well unless you mean chilling by dunki donuts lol hahahaha

by SitasMom on 02 March 2009 - 21:03

Kandi
are you a democrat?

by Kandi on 02 March 2009 - 21:03

I am not a democrat....LOL! Nor a republican!!

windwalker18

by windwalker18 on 03 March 2009 - 05:03

Like so many laws that get passed.... good intentions can be twisted and used in ways nobody ever dreamed of.  I can very definately see issues in towns where there's a conflict with neighbors over someone having dogs, where the neighbor is well connected politically and the Dog Warden seizes their dogs and forces them to prove they're NOT abusing them...

Kind of like that old joke....    "So............ have you stopped beating your wife yet??"    you're screwed whether you say yes or no...

CrysBuck25

by CrysBuck25 on 03 March 2009 - 06:03

The problem with this is: What constitutes abuse?  Beating a dog?  Starving it?  Chaining it out in the yard with no shelter?  Or is training it using a prong collar, or slip collar?  Denying it treats?  Feeding it too much?  If you ask a hundred different people for their opinions, you'll get a hundred different opinions, and therefore, it is impossible to imbue a police officer with the authority to seize a dog based on his personal opinions. 

I've known people who believed that to expect even a common courtesy like not jumping up, to be abuse, and I've known of a particularly mean drunk whose idea of dog training involved wielding a piece of firewood against his dog.  The latter I consider abuse, but the former is abuse of a different sort.  

There are already laws in every state that provide for remedies against dog owners who don't provide needed medical care, or proper housing, or contain their dogs. 

If indeed this law has been passed, then it is insane, as it is redundant.  The burden of providing proof would fall to the state, and if there were a rash of good dogs being seized for abuse, it seems to me that the law would end up being challenged.

The way that politicians vie for more new laws every time they are in session...tells me that they really need to get a job and a life.  There is not nearly enough money to enforce the laws they already have.  There will never be enough for any others, especially not when you consider that as long as America farms out its labor to third world countries, and keeps fighting with the rest of the world instead of concentrating on its own troubles.

Crys

Vom Brunhaus

by Vom Brunhaus on 03 March 2009 - 10:03

Conn. is Fleischer territory, I doubt this crap would happen or in Ridgefield !

BabyEagle4U

by BabyEagle4U on 03 March 2009 - 13:03

While the mainstream news media are hyping President Barack Obama's election and the dismal economic downturn in the United States, more and more states are declaring, or have already declared, sovereignty.

Here's Pennsylvania's ...   http://samrohrer.com/uploads/10thAmendment-HR.pdf

States with Sovereignty effort's include, Arizona, New Hampshire, Montana, Michigan, Missouri, Washington, Oklahoma, Texas, South Carolina, Pennsylvania. I now hear over 30 states are involved with this .. if you know your state doesn't have a draft resolution yet, get on the Sovereignty train now to get your state Introduced. Visit www.CampaignforLiberty.com
SC Example text :
 
"Whereas, the Tenth Amendment to the United States Constitution provides that "powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people"; and

Whereas, the Tenth Amendment defines the limited scope of federal power as being that specifically granted by the United States Constitution; and

Whereas, the limited scope of authority defined by the Tenth Amendment means that the federal government was created by the states specifically to be an agent of the states; and

Whereas, currently the states are treated as agents of the federal government; and

Whereas, many federal mandates are directly in violation of the Tenth Amendment to the United States Constitution; and

Whereas, the United States Supreme Court has ruled that Congress may not simply commandeer the legislative and regulatory processes of the states."


A Regional Conference will be held at the Millennium Hotel in St. Louis, Missouri on March 27-29 .. at this time all state delegates for Liberty, will gather and discuss individual State Sovereignty and plan for the upcoming Continental Congress which started the tour of the 50 states this past weekend.
http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog.php?view=7928

Call your Represenatives and have them support this effort, the tour will end before March 27-29, now is your chance. Get INVOLVED !!

Abraham Lincoln Gettysburg, Pennsylvania Nov 18, 1863
 ~ "It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us -- that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion -- that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain -- that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom -- and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth."

"With the thoughts you'd be thinkin' You could be another Lincoln If you only had a brain" ... LMAO









 


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