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by Mikeee on 23 February 2009 - 02:02
Will the puppies have true color (true sable color and true black and tan color) or a variant?
Thanks,

by jletcher18 on 23 February 2009 - 02:02
best way that explains color and what the posible outcome can be.
thanks again ehret,
john

by pod on 23 February 2009 - 10:02
Sable bred to black & tan could produce any of the colours/patterns within the GSD gene pool including solid black, white, blue, liver etc, but yes, the most probable is sable and black & tan. It would need the sable parent to carry tanpoint or recessive black at the A locus ie aw at or aw a to produce black and tan though.
Since sable is dominant, a black & tan from a sable x B&T breeding is not going to be any different from one from a B&T X B&T breeding. Some breeders do believe that using a sable can improve (or deplete) pigment but the genes that control pigment are inherited separately from the A locus so it is entirely dependent on the genotype of that particular sable as to whether he improves pigment or not.
I don't think there is any evidence to suggest that a sable carrying tanpoint is any different from a homozygous sable but it does seem to be the case that sables and B&Ts carrying recessive black do show some incomplete dominance in that they are consistently darker than homozygotes.
by Mikeee on 23 February 2009 - 15:02

by pod on 23 February 2009 - 16:02
If the sable parent is homozygous on the A locus ie. he doesn't carry tanpoint or recessive black, mated to a B&T, only sables can be produced (again, only if the other recessives are not carried by both parents).
by Mikeee on 23 February 2009 - 16:02
I would like to expand my knowledge in breeding, do you suggest any books for breeding or any other resources?

by pod on 23 February 2009 - 19:02
You're welcome Mikeee :-)
As for recommended reading... if you mean about genetics this science is progressing at such a manic pace at the present time that any published books are going to be outdated virtually as they're published. For colour inheritance, this is a good site to keep up to date, but doesn't explain the basics - http://homepage.usask.ca/~schmutz/dogcolors.html
For a overview of the basics of genetics - http://bowlingsite.mcf.com/Genetics/Genetics.html
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