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by ShellyK on 16 February 2009 - 23:02
Here's the catch - he had been doing this to tell me he has to go outside to eliminate - so I kind of had to tolerate it.
Now he does it just to visit, or bring a toy to play with, or for a scratch, or to say let's go outside to play. I know this is an impoosible scenario of mixed signals, but this second type of visit I don't choose to tolerate.
Because I'm seated in a chair, I can't really knee him old school, turn, or ignore him. To push him down involves taking my palm to his face, or equally bad, his throat, because that's all that's accessible to me above the seat arms. He's a big dog so I have to be forceful, and I don't want him to interpret this as being struck by my hand.
I try to nip it in the bud when I anticipate it, but shouting "no" is only partially successful.
Was thinking about a compressed air horn blast to the nose when he jumps up, but if I interfere with his way of telling me is potty time I have whole new set of problems.
I've considered an ecollar but hate to spend the money for this one simple issue. Suggestions?

by Justk9s on 16 February 2009 - 23:02
I think the e collar is a little extreme for this situation. Before going that far, I would put a small leather tab on a choke collar and use it for a correction when he jumps up.
Some of this might interfere with his jumping up to let you know he needs to go out, but I think that is what started the issue in the first place, teach him to let you know by going to the door or something.
KIM
www.justk9s.com

by Q Man on 16 February 2009 - 23:02

by Pharaoh on 17 February 2009 - 00:02
Give him something else to do to signal that he needs to go out as Kim suggested.
I have stuffed animals with bells sown on and a strap to hang it from the door in my office that opens to the hallway. If he needs a potty break, he smacks the toy causing the bells to ring. I taught him to ring the bell by taking his paw and smacking the bells and then taking him outside.
Once he understands the bells, you can then use Kim's excellent advice on deterring his old method. (Kim is giving me advice on how to correct his over-enthusiastic greeting to strangers at the front door).
The down side of the hanging bells is that my smart demanding monster, started ringing the bell as if it were for room service. He will ring it because he wants more food and as we are walking to the outside door, he sits in front of the refrigerator and barks at it. He will ring the bells hanging on the door to the outside, because he wants his water bowl cleaned (after he has washed his muddy toys in it). The rule is, if he rings the bells, he goes out to the yard and I do not give him food or clean his bowl right then. It would be never ending.
Michele

by ShellyK on 17 February 2009 - 02:02
by Jeff Oehlsen on 17 February 2009 - 02:02

by Pharaoh on 17 February 2009 - 04:02
POOF!
by Langhaar on 17 February 2009 - 14:02
They go when I take them outside, this has the added benefit of ensuring that they eliminate on command.

by ShellyK on 17 February 2009 - 15:02
Langhaar: "I never allow my dogs to tell me when they need to eliminate, I am not their butler!"
To each his own, but in nature the pack leader doesn't schedule each pack member's bodily functions.
How did you potty train your children?
by Langhaar on 17 February 2009 - 15:02
The same way, my daughter was out of nappies during the day at 10 months and during the night before 15 months.
Simple
What dogs do in the wild is of no importance to me they are domesticated and live indoors with me so have to adapt to my rules and regulations.
And I never have the problems that you have posted.
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