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by Vikram on 12 February 2009 - 16:02

I'm looking for all possible articles and material on How to become the pack leader or alpha of a strong dog ( Not a pet)

Thanks for all your help


regards


by Vikram on 12 February 2009 - 16:02

I'm not sure of the credibility of the info out there in the net so I'm asking here

TIA


 


Two Moons

by Two Moons on 12 February 2009 - 17:02

Maybe the guy who lives with the wolves has a video or something.   I don't know if he could write a book.

justcurious

by justcurious on 12 February 2009 - 20:02

some people really believe that using the dog's pack instinct is the best way to manage a dog; and perhaps they are right.  imo, especially for pet dogs, the better way to go is to teach the dog to become a family member - teach them how to live in a human society - and not reinforce their pack instinct.  the goal being suppression of the pack instinct and building up the concept of being a member of a human family. 

to start, teach the dog english (or whatever your first language happens to be) by naming behaviors like sit and objects like bed; and basic household manner like no biting. to really solidify proper household behavior you need to teach self-control as well. teaching a dog to be a good family member is  really not a huge leap from raising children.  the best thing to do is to have a clear picture of what you want and over time respectfully teach the dogs what these are.  once you've decided how you want to share your life and space with your dog then give the dog the freedoms you want them to have and restrict the dog is the ways you wish them to be restricted.  again as with children being clear, confident, calm, consistant, fair and respectful are the best skills for a good leader to possess.  this way you build trust and authority, and your dog will want to turn to you when confused etc. - making a solid bond between you and your dog.

if you do prefer the "pack" approach to managing a dog i think if you run a search for "pack leader" or "pack alpha" or the like you will find more than enough info. hth



by RONNIERUNCO on 12 February 2009 - 21:02

WALK DOG ON LEFT SIDE. WHILE WALKING TAKE RIGHT FOOT AND WHIP IT BEHIND LEFT KNEE AND KICK DOG IN ASS. THIS WILL REDIRECT DOG THAT YOU ARE PACKLEADER.  AFTER YOU GET HOME WATCH ENTIRE SEASON OF DOG WHISPERER.


by getreal on 12 February 2009 - 22:02

There is a very good set of books that was written that addresses canine behavior by Steven R Lindsay. I think the title was Handbook of Applied Dog Behavior and Training. It is a three book set and very expensive. It is valuable information and if you are researching, getting ready or contemplating getting a canine that you feel that you need to prepare for, these would be a very good investment.

You specifically mentioned non-pet, so I suggest that if you currently have a dog that you are having issues with, then you find a local qualified trainer or handler that has experience that can help you first hand. Reading and researching is only part of your approach. You also need to learn to "read" the dog so that you can tell when he/she is about to attempt to establish dominance. All dogs give notice, it is just missed by most people/handlers.

Pack structure is a term, and it is related to dogs. I hate to see it used and think that it is misunderstood, just like the term "nerves". As far as pack structure goes, you can say that families have "pack structure", as well as horses.

There is a few links that still work at http://www.uwsp.edu/PSYCH/dog/Protect.htm

Best Wishes

by Steve Leigh on 12 February 2009 - 22:02

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justcurious

by justcurious on 12 February 2009 - 22:02

sorry i missed the not in "not a pet" - i hate when i do that.  lindsay's books are really great but very heady so a bit of a slow read.  i'm still not a fan of the pack/alpha method  no matter the situation but milan is favorite of many.  leersburg i believe also favor this approach. imo the best thing is to train and exercise the dog daily to not only keep the dog busy  but to create a really strong bond. 

for training i would recommend ivan balabanov to help create a clear structure for the dog to channel his drive, teach the dog self-control, and get the dog into the habit that you give the instructions and the dog job is to follow your commands.  structure will perhaps be your greatest tool to get him under control. also this article might help http://siriusdog.com/kids-dogs-bites-safety-prey.htm  this site has lots of articles - best of luck.


justcurious

by justcurious on 12 February 2009 - 23:02

So my thoughts are - the dogs can't possibly learn the English language (at least I'VE never seen one) - therefore we must learn the dog's language. - Steve Leigh

imo it's when both learn each other's language that great things really start to happen
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by Steve Leigh on 12 February 2009 - 23:02

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