The Kennel Club should face a LEGAL CHALLENGE - Page 1

I do think that every word of this is very very true... would they allow such behaviour in reverse?  They are giving people yonks to get their animals identified - but they see this move as an immediate, and as Davi says, with dogs having qualified under a different standard... it cant be right.  Has this been sent to them David?    Mo

As Penny has asked the question I would like to know if anyone has thought of this before with regards " Legal Challenge" and has any one contacted the KC . Can you imagine the drivers of a Formula 1 Car being told for your last race of the season and the race that will decide the Championship you will all have to ride a 50cc moped, just a joke but this is no different. The build up to Crufts and the qualifying classes of which you need to win or in certain cases be placed started back in March  2008, only in the last few weeks we have been informed of a change to our standard and also other breeds. The Judge for our breed at Crufts this year must be concerned. Sometimes as we all know for various reasons we question how some of the GSD`s managed to qualify for this show although we all know it depends on condition and often how they have developed in the past year should they have qualified at a young age. This year should all the qualifying Judges have judged to the Original Standard then it will be hard to find a Winner!!!

It's not just the refund of Crufts entry fees that should be considered, it's the hundreds of pounds, maybe thousands that some people invested this last 12 months showing their dogs all over the country to get their dogs qualified, I am not necessarily talking GSD's but all breeds, some standards have been changed very significantly, if all these people got together and added up thier expenses it would be hundreds of thousands literally, could the KC afford this?

Hello David.

    I agree with every thing you say, it does appear that our "LEADERS " are rather like toothless Tigers when it comes to making a stand against the KC. As an ex Trade Union Official, you more than anyone should know the  power ordinary people have when they start to protest.  A good example is the amazing U turn made by the Government regarding the TOTAL Refinery Foreign workers fiasco.  Can you imagine the Embarrassment caused to the KC. if Crufts were to see Breed Club, after Breed Club protesting vehemently around the rings about the KCs reluctance to implement workable schemes to make Dogs healthier, by a misguided notion  that THEY and only THEY know what is best  for every breed of Dog ,Per Se : and ignore the wishes  and recommendations of the Breeders, who in case they have forgotten are the custodians of the Breed.   It's food for thought, dont you think?
   
Regards as ever.
   Paul.

A challenge should be immediately set out to the Kennel Club.  David - will you take this on to contact the Breed Council, or do you want that I mail Sheila, and ask her to send a letter in to them, stating the obvious....    Mo

Not that I don't agree with your sentiments regarding the KC returning entry fee's to those who request it since they did enter under one set of Breed Standards (rules) which are now to be changed before they compete.
However, having attended the BC Meeting of Clubs re the suggested Standard Changes and noting that very little was changed and will even go so far as to say that some of the changes actually incorporated things (such as degree's of angles) that are stated in the WUSV standard,  non of which had previously appeared in the British KC version of our Standard,  so on reflection it could be argued that the one we are now presenting is better for the German type GSD than the one we had.

Again, don't get me wrong, IMO I think the British KC should just wake up to the existance of the rest of the World by adopting the World FCI Standards that way (if they hadnt kept insisting on being to Elitist) our KC wouldnt have found themselves so isolated when Jemima PP and her PDE programme suggested much of the bad Health in Pedigree Dogs was down to the Kennel Club Standards because then she would have had THE WORLD OF PEDIGREE BREEDERS AND THEIR KENNEL CLUBS collectively knocking at her door, for not only would she then have been attacking our KC Standards but those attributed to the World. At least with all the Health Checks Breeds such as ours incorporate into our breeding programmes she wouldnt have had much of a leg to stand on.

So if we want to go into legislation, why not fight the KC to recognise the World Standard, rather than refund a few measely entry costs, afterall surely the European Community Rights Commission would see far more reason to aid our cause and help uphold any fight we made for the EQUALITY of our Dog Breed Standards to be put in line with the rest of the World and surely this would more aid our cause for a better future for the German Shepherd than going to Court to claim a refund for our Crufts entry.  Just a thought !!

Regards
Sue B

Regarding the post from Paulie  MOST OF OUR LEADERS ARE ALSO MEMBERS OR VERY INVOLVED with the KC so no real action against the KC will eminate from them, this breed really needs to sit down take stock and promote people who have the BREED as their main priority
I would guess that at least one of our LEADERS was actually involved in the changes The KC would not have made the changes without reference to a specialist wonder which one, should be a prize for guessing