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Escobar

by Escobar on 01 February 2009 - 01:02

So what do you guys of this board think about breeding family dogs?
None working and probably non showing dogs?

Just plain good family dogs?

A friend owns a female she is long coat, or so they say (I don't see it)

Not the greatest picture of her.

Well she has great temperament and is over all a lovely dog. (Well who's dog isn't?)

I'd just like to hear what you guys gotta say.

I myself have been looking for a puppy and I was thinking of importing but that is damn exspenisve !

And in this bitch, granted if she passes her hips and elbows X-ray I see a GSD I'd like.

Her parents are good, her mother better than the father in my opinion anyways :)

She will finish tracking soon hopefully and her MH will be done this summer.....

by candis on 01 February 2009 - 01:02

Personally not something I would breed I look for breed standards and bloodlines as well as of course the health clearances.. But the choice would be yours if you wanted to purchase a pup from this female. remember when you do not have the proper working bloodlines there is a true chance of not getting the dog you required. On the other hand you may luck out! As to the coat I would stay three hundred miles away from a long coated dog. Again my preferance

tigermouse

by tigermouse on 01 February 2009 - 01:02

pedigree?

Escobar

by Escobar on 01 February 2009 - 01:02

Thanks for the reply.

Well what I'm looking for is a herding dog, but then again I'm only getting one pup and there might be up to 13 in a litter, so thats why I'm asking

I know it might be in a grey area, but a lot of folks are just getting a dog to get a good family pet.

She is calm in home, nice with children, she is quick to learn, and I'm gonna start her in a Training Club from next friday.
(Might as well use a REAL dog, I got a labrador and for him working is beneath him )

I know I'm sounding like "my dog is the best" even though it ain't my dog.

But I've been looking at kennels in Norway and Sweden and they mix and match coats and colors.

I however realise that they are breeding working dogs.

The male she has her eye out for is a big and beautiful police dog .

Here is another photo, the lighting is all fu***** up though, still learning the ropes with my new 350D .




Escobar

by Escobar on 01 February 2009 - 01:02

Sure thing .

Mother  and Father


I personally am not very keen on the father, but the mother side I like.
Rainmess Hertha was my old guys mother, so I know this and really like this line.

I know dogs from this line (well the mother side anyways)



by candis on 01 February 2009 - 01:02

That's why you want a pup from this female.. she is related to your old dog. Well if thats the case go nuts

Casa del Mango

by Casa del Mango on 01 February 2009 - 02:02

There are plenty of "pet" dogs already being bred in "show" litters, why on earth would anyone breed a "family pet"? If you want a dog for Herding, I would suggest looking for someone who at least works or titles their dog in that venue, so you know that the drive is there. Taking a puppy out of an "unknown" is quite a crapshoot...

by HighDesertGSD on 01 February 2009 - 03:02

I think one has to breed as if to show or work even for family pets.

Why?

For one thing a pet is always nice to have somethng extra that is extra endearing to the owner, be it looks or abilities.

Only top show and working lines are likely to have generations of OFA H&E certification.

Generally, "pet quality" are from top stocks that are judged as not nearly as good as the parents, not deliberately aimed for.


CrysBuck25

by CrysBuck25 on 01 February 2009 - 03:02

I wouldn't do it, if I were you.  If the dog is just a family pet, then likely, the family is not going to want to keep all those puppies, and so will be willing to give them to anyone wanting a German Shepherd, and then the cycle starts again.  It always comes back to money.  I would agree with Case del Mango....Go to someone who breeds Shepherds whose dogs are titled in herding, or at least whose dogs actually herd sheep on a daily basis, titled or not.  If you just want to get a puppy from this dog mated to that, it's a crap shoot as to what you end up with, and for the puppies from the litter.  Do you know how many dogs are put down every year because there were no homes for them?  I'm not saying to wait until you can find a Shepherd in the pound, but please don't contribute to the problem.

In fact, if I were a breeder selling a pup to a pet home, I'd make darn sure they didn't get full AKC reg.  I would counsel buyers not to breed, since most aren't willing to keep the dogs they produce.  The way I see it...you shouldn't produce any dogs you couldn't afford to keep and raise yourself...but that's just me:-)

Uber Land

by Uber Land on 01 February 2009 - 04:02

all I can tell you is that the best bitch I ever had as far as companion, and producer of working drives was an old pet bred american bitch. 

She had non stop toy drive and would go for hours.  plus I never had to worry about training her,  it was like she was born knowing how she needed to act.  she rarely got in trouble.  Was an exceptional mother,  could be trusted to take on orphaned puppies.  She would continue to clean and groom her puppies clear till they were adults.  she passed on her willingness to please to her puppies   and I still get calls from puppy buyers saying that their pups out of her have been the best dogs they've ever owned.  they've never had to train them or anything.  its like they were born fully obed.  trained.

I never kept a puppy out of her though I wish I had.   She was a rare gem,  not sure I will ever have another like her

 






 


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