Is this the Ideal GSD? Count Me Out

by Laura F on 30 January 2009 - 08:01

I've just been watching the videos since there has been a lot of discussion about show lines. Their movement is so unnatural. The backs are so bent and the hind legs are barely scraping off the ground. I'm sticking to my straight backed, well constructed working line boy, he moves well!

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by GSDFrankfurt on 30 January 2009 - 09:01

SORRY LADY BUT YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!
THE DOGS SHOWN IN THE VIDEOCLIPS YOU LISTED ARE HARD WORKING DOGS
EVERYONE WHO HAS EVER TRAINED SUCH A DOG FOR TITLES AND SHOWS ESPECIALLY THE SIEGERSHOW; KNOWS WHAT I´M TALKING ABOUT. THOSE DOGS SHOWN HAVE ALL EXCELLENT HIPS AND ELBOWS AND ONLY TO QUALIFY FOR THE SIEGERSHOW THEY PROBABLY RUN AND WALK AND GATE SOME HUNDRED MILES. THIS WOULDN´T BE POSSIBLE IF THERE MOVEMENT WOULD BE SO UNNATURAL.......
BY THE WAY........IS YOUR ALSATIAN X-RAYED HIPS AND ELBOWS?
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by GSDFrankfurt on 30 January 2009 - 09:01

SORRY LADY BUT YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!
THE DOGS SHOWN IN THE VIDEOCLIPS YOU LISTED ARE HARD WORKING DOGS
EVERYONE WHO HAS EVER TRAINED SUCH A DOG FOR TITLES AND SHOWS ESPECIALLY THE SIEGERSHOW; KNOWS WHAT I´M TALKING ABOUT. THOSE DOGS SHOWN HAVE ALL EXCELLENT HIPS AND ELBOWS AND ONLY TO QUALIFY FOR THE SIEGERSHOW THEY PROBABLY RUN AND WALK AND GATE SOME HUNDRED MILES. THIS WOULDN´T BE POSSIBLE IF THERE MOVEMENT WOULD BE SO UNNATURAL.......
BY THE WAY........IS YOUR ALSATIAN X-RAYED HIPS AND ELBOWS?
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PAUL PANZER

by Videx on 30 January 2009 - 11:01

I trust many SV Judges and Officials, as well as WUSV Member Clubs around the World, will realise the Kennel Club here in the UK have CHANGED the GSD Breed Standard for the UK, without any discussion with the GSD Clubs, The GSD Breed Council,, and the TWO WUSV Member Clubs, BAGSD & The GSD League.

The two WUSV Member Clubs, who should support the SV Breed Standard have been SILENT on these changes. They need to issue a public statement condemning these unilateral changes to our GSD Breed Standard.

It is crucial that the SV takes urgent steps to assert its authority and the authority of the WUSV regarding this serious matter.

I urge ALL SV members to write and/or email the SV requesting they give this matter their urgent attention.

by Bob McKown on 30 January 2009 - 14:01

GSDFrankfurt:

Hard working dogs???? Come on give me a break if you needed protection or if the flock needed tending what will they do gait the transgressors to death?. Oh my little shepherd has hip and elbow cert and has probably ran hundreds of miles doing blind work and chasing down decoys, clearing jumps, walls, vertical walls all the work a "working dog should be able to do" and still play nicely with the kids...

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by missbeeb on 30 January 2009 - 14:01

Don't be dreary, Bob... just because most of them don't compete at Sch, it doesn't mean they're useless... it may well mean, however, that their owners / handlers are not interested in Sch. Now, whether that's right or wrong...???

by Bob McKown on 30 January 2009 - 15:01

missbeeb:

                   I love you more then any women in my life, But GSDF did state working dog so I took his comment literaly I will submit that it does depend on your definition of working, so I appoligize for being dreary, will you show kindness in your heart and forgive me? I wait for your reply... be kind.

                                                                                                          Forever yours
                                                                                                          Robert Charles McKown

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by missbeeb on 30 January 2009 - 15:01

Bob... baby, you're the only one!

by july9000 on 30 January 2009 - 15:01

Hummm...The question is what is the ideal GSD??
In the first video they are not gaiting..they are walking! Or should I say Pacing...and you are right..it looks awful..you can't see nothing on movement with dogs that are pacing..

In the second video..some looks like their backs are broken!! it doesn't look confortable and you can see clearly those dogs cannot gait all day and attend flocks with a stucture like that..

But then.if those dogs won..it should be the ideal no?? Aren't the SV judges competent?? Should we trust their judgement when we see dogs with major gaiting faults being put has good for your breeding program??

That is the question?

by Uglydog on 30 January 2009 - 16:01

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