Corded ball as a training tool

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by GFujioka on 25 January 2009 - 04:01

I've seen several videos in which trainers work their dogs with a ball with a short rope or cord attached. In some of the videos the trainer appears to be using the ball to encourage certain positions, as in heeling? It could be totally random too, I don't know.

Is this in fact a particular technique or is it a coincidence? If if is a technique could someone give me an overview or point me to somewhere I could learn more?

Also, is there one particular brand that is 'the standard' as far as use goes?

Thanks,

Gary

by GSDguy08 on 25 January 2009 - 04:01

It can be used for both drive building and obedience....good trainers use whatever works best for the dog.

by Sam1427 on 25 January 2009 - 04:01

It's a training technique to encourage drive and focus - usually. Sometimes it's a reward or bait if the dog is crazy about the ball. The ball on a rope is often an Orbee brand ball. There are a number of brands. The technique is taught by German BSP trainer Bernhard Flinks, a very well known trainer. You can get a video showing this technique titled "Training Drive and Focus with Bernhard Flinks" or something close to that name from www.leerburg.com. Look under training videos.

by jletcher18 on 25 January 2009 - 05:01

orbee is too soft for my dogs. they end up tearing them up
i like the four paws brand or gappy.
the same principle can be done with a jute tuge, also called a bitewurst, or any toy that your dog likes.
flinks video is a good start. its better if you can go to a seminar or work with someone who knows how.
john

by animules on 25 January 2009 - 14:01

I think most of the balls on a rope I have are gappy, I use medium or large depending on which dog. Mostly I've now transitioned to a tug, easier for me to keep my fingers out of the way.

by k9ulf on 26 January 2009 - 18:01

I have not been using balls or balls on a string for about 12 years and I dont miss it at all. I find them impractical, I never got the timing and targeting right, it just moves too much. All the best Ulf

by Mystere on 26 January 2009 - 18:01

The corded ball, whatever brand, is just a tool for OB, just like tugs, bitewursts, balls, Flippers, jute balls, etc. As with any tool, you must find out what works best for YOUR dog. They all rely on proper timing on the handler's part.

by Mystere on 26 January 2009 - 19:01

by sueincc on 26 January 2009 - 19:01

I use the hard or medium balls on rope, the orbee is too soft and squishy, my dog can bust one in a heartbeat. Gappay, Bende, Elite K9, Frabo, are just some of the companies that make these balls. Here is one link, but if you look at most on-line schutzhund suppliers you will find they carry balls on rope.

http://www.hallmarkk9.com/Balls_on_Rope.aspx

by k9ulf on 26 January 2009 - 19:01

I think speed, focus , control and determination can be easier achieved without a ball. Have look at this short videos.

http://s164.photobucket.com/albums/u13/K9ULF/?action=view&current=speedvideo.flv

http://s164.photobucket.com/albums/u13/K9ULF/?action=view&current=aMultiControl2.flv

Anyway, thats just my humble opinion

Ulf

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