Illinois Residents- House Bill 198- Breeders - Page 1

Just a note on house bill 198:
This bill is an attempt to control puppy mills and regulate sale of puppies at pet stores.  However, the bill is unreasonably strict towards the hobby breeder.   It affects anyone who owns more than three (3) intact females (whether breed or not).   In short, there are requirments for housing which could be interpreted as a ban on using crates in a home and requiring kennels to the states requirments be built and unanounced inspections of facilites, for most of us that is our homes,  Below is a link to the ,AKC interpretation of the bill and the IL Legislative site if you are interested in reading the enitire bill (ADVISED, make your OWN decision to support or protest this bill to your representatives).  This will also effect collor states that may do business with kennels in IL.


Bottom line for small breeders in IL,  we would be forced to either stop breeding due to lack of kennel facilities and the expense if installing them, housing the dogs in the home with crate time would be a violation, no matter how much or little they are crated.  Plus the added stress of a home inspection.  The paperwork and record keeping should already be in place if we are doing our jobs.

For large breeders, you will be limited to the ownership of 20 dogs, fostering and co-ownership will be regulated as will having freinds or associates help socialize any puppies you may keep back for observation before sale.

MY VIEW
I am all for controlling the pet population, pounding the heck out of puppy mills and brokers for these mills as well as making sure large breeders are delievering the goods to customers.  However, this bill goes just a little too far and does not take the responsible hobby breeders rights into consideration.  I have no problem paying for a lisence, but to be forced to house my three girls in outside or garage kennels does not sit well,  nor does having my family life interupted by a surprize inspection.    My whelping room is a spare bedroom that does not meet the requirments because it is partially carpeted!  I only breed one litter per year but becasue I have three intact females, the rule will apply

http://www.akc.org/news/index.cfm?article_id=3710

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/billstatus.asp?DocNum=198&GAID=10&GA=96&DocTypeID=HB&LegID=40220&SessionID=76

You can't have it both ways, control is control no matter how you see the particulars.
Haven't we had enough stupid legislation?
Stir up a hornets nest and you will get stung.

I agree with the bill as far as puppy mills and pet stores. I hate how petland operates and would love to see them shut down as far as no selling of puppies period. I'm iffy about backyard breeders as well. I think they should pass a law that you should have a license to breed. Given you know what you are doing and going to better the breed. There are too many dogs in the shelter and being put down everyday because no one wants them.

For the kennel issue I think its dumb. If you properly exercise the dog and keeping it in doors in a crate for a legitament amount of time is fair.  To put it in a garage in a crate...hope they have heated and air conditioning garage with whatever type of weather permits. For outside, what if the dog becomes a problem as far as barking and etc?

My main concern is over population of dogs and irresponsible breeders. I want the pet stores to stop selling and people to educate themselves before they buy a dog and can't commit.

I  agree with you and in no way will this bill stop the owner of one or two dogs from backyard breeding, they will still be free to do as they please, just as I would if I only had two females.  Lately I have had three, only one is a breeding female, one us co-owned and will go to Germany this year, the third is being fostered until a pet home can be found for her.

Under these rules, I would be obligated to register, again no problem with the idea, but they are circulated through the day from "couch", to outside and their crates.

Maybe it is a good jump off place to send our representives a clue into training and being in touch with your breed, try to enforce the fact that health screens and temperment need to be taken into account before breeding.

I still hate having this legislated when the simple solution is to educate the public and eliminate the income for bad breeders.

You both hit on it !!
Educate the public...... no new laws needed.  
If the public is aware they would be less likely to buy from pet stores or puppy mills and you wont have the law in your face telling you whats right or wrong.
When has the government ever gotten anything right?
One size does not fit all and thats what laws do, without any common sense.
The over population problem, shelters, thats easy to fix.

 

You cant have it both ways.You want protection for some and the lynch mob for the other.The laws should be set up for the abuse of dogs and not the # of dogs.One mans breeding program is another mans backyard breeder or puppy mill.I guess if it interferes with your own business profits its a backyard breeder or puppy mill.Then you want it regulated ,if its your own kennel you dont want it regulated.

Thats right wuzzup.

it is a tough bill but think it will help control some of these big breeders that kick out 30 some litters a year. freaken ridiculous. Just a big puppy mill. Don't care how nice their dogs are.
actually think it' will help the smaller ones that do care about what they are producing. and nothing wrong with inspections, seen some kennels that are such a fire hazzard, all the wood dust etc.........

We should all join the pet law lists on yahoo. They post petitions and letters  (links) that can be copied or just signed for all to voice there concerns with these nation wide laws to restrict breeding. Everyone need to be part of this or we will be restricted where or what we can buy .Or just lose our rights to own any animals freely  Anyone with helpfull links should post them on the PDB  

http://www.petpac.net/action/petitions/hsus_peta_do_not_represent_majority_of_americans
FloridaPetLaw@yahoogroups.com

If the publics not buying the breeders will stop breeding.
You want government officials inspecting you fine.
Sorry I disagree with all my senses.  
Some people are too worried about what the other guy is doing.
And once you let the cat out of the bag its all over, it won't go back in.