dogs in pakistan - Page 1

Hi Mr.????????????

you wrote in this time we send you the wrong puppy, you payed 300 euro for this puppy and this puppy is 10 month old
we send you a puppy, how was the time in the last 8 month. how healthy is your dog in this moment.

we got a lot of experience how are the dogs looks when they come back from pakistan.

all off the dogs are very ill, some of the dogs are no more in life, i was also very ill because when i have seen the dogs
when they come back to germany. they all to small no food. only the dog who come back from umar was in a very good condition, all other dogs are was a shame to have dogs in this condition and in this food situation.

i have seen dogs when they come back from pakistan they died in my arms, and i was very upset about this situation.
many people in your country bought dogs from us and the most of them died.
How can you declear this situation in your country???????????????????????

Do you think you are the right country for german shephard dogs?

the only people i know who take care of the dogs is umar sheik, the only.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

simone reims  

I totally disagree with the fact that German shepards are not well treated in Pakistan....I am a proud owner of 5 german shepards and all of them are in good health....All the people i know take very good care of their shepards and enter them into shows....I know Umar personally and recently just had my Female mated with his male Luxus Kahlerheide and the female is expecting puppies ........I am very excited and already preparing for their arrival....Umar has vast knowledge in german shepards but their are others as well who spend time and money taking care of the breed.......As far as poor health of dogs are concerned ....well its the same all around the world you have good breeders and bad breeders ,some just their to make money....I also know about lots of incidents where sellers promise one thing and send another in germany  its the same all around the world ...i am not saying all are the same but you have good and bad people everywhere......if you ask me personally unless and until you go their and see the dog for yourself you should never buy online ....you dont know who you can trust.....But thats my opinion.......Thanks,

Excuse me Simone, dont you have bad breeders in germany to? Atleast we dont have concentration camps over here! Atleast we dont kill dogs and treat their skulls like decoration pieces! Atleast we dont have animal torture centres which are disguised as shelters! We take good care of our dogs! Good breeder and bad breeders exist in every country!

simone reims Really surprised to see your message. Instead of accepting your mistake, you are trying to complex the situation by adding more things in it. Reality is that you people did a fraud and send me a wrong dog (Not the dog whose picture you send me and who was from "B" Litter with a name of Ben). We negotiated the rates for Ben only. We never discuss any other dog when negotiating rates. You never said this that Ben is expensive and Curin is a cheap Dog. ( Curin is the dog which you send to me by your own instead of Ben). Rather when I received the dog in Pakistan then I only came to know that you did not send to me the agreed Dog "Ben" rather another dog with the name of Curin. Then you admitted that you did it by mistake. ( I have your e-mail with me where you admitted it and if any one at this forum wants it I can send that mail and all other correspondence). Now do not say that it was a cheap dog or expensive one. We both of us agreed on rates for Ben which I paid you. Your dishonesty was only revealed to me when I checked the dog upon its arrival in Pakistan. Here do only focus this issue firstly. Do not try to make things complicated by adding other issues on it. Now I want the Dog Ben in Pakistan for which I paid. And you can take the dog back from me which you send me mistakenly ( as per your statement). There is no issue, you have admitted your mistake. Now simply do get it correct. Awaiting.......................

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Kahler Heide Kennel by Danish Matin on 23 June 2006 - 14:06	Danish Matin Posts: 6 Joined: Mon Apr 17, 2006 08:45 pm
Breeder Gerd reims It usually happens that you buy a dog and when u get that dog at the airport and you open the flybox, someother dog comes out. This is a normal practice, but he breeds good dogs DM

@aristianM
Dear Sir,  Could you kindly explain your Statement about the Concentration Camps? If you like, I can invite you to my lovely Country, to meet the nice People here and show you around the Country I’m very proud of. I have always People visiting from around the World and they absolutely enjoy there time here. Believe me, I don’t like to protect the “Kahler Heide Gang” but it is hurting to read such comments.

@simone
Well I dont know, if I should ratter send you an comment in deutsch as your english seems to be poor, but i like everybody to understand what I have to say. First of all, stop attacking your "clients", the people that support your livestyle. I´m actually really shocked about the fact, that you tell us about the situation of the GSD´s in Pakistan but on the other hand you keep sending dogs there....are you sure about those rumours?
 

Hello AristianM, Thanks for your comments. I fully agree with them. Infect I know Germany and German people quite well. I have visited Germany three times earlier for business and it was really wonderful for stay there and people are very friendly. I visited many cities of Germany and still I do have many friends there in Germany in logistic companies. As for as GSD is concern, In 2007 I imported a nice female from Vom Amur Kennel. She is nice one. She is still with me and now she is two years old and is performing very well in shows and I am really proud of her. But the experience with this Kahler Heide is really very bad. I can agree on comments that it tough to forecast about puppies in future when he is only two months old. But they people sent me entirely different dog from different litter from different mother. Am I not right to ask them just to correct their mistake and replace the dog. I simply need the dog which I selected about which we negotiated rates etc. Regarding the situation in Pakistan I can assure you that people hare really do love dogs. They know how to keep them. Our seiger show is coming on February 08, 2009. if you like to visit Pakistan you are most well. Be my guest here, see the seagour show and check the quality of dogs by yourself. It will really reveal you the actual situation without any biasness. Best Regards Aneeb

MR GSDfrankfurt, if my  country is insulted on an open forum, i wont sit down and do nothing about it!! many people in your country dont care about dogs too! Quite a few kennels have like 20 dogs and they are only used for stud and show! Thats it, they dont take care of their dogs! No wonder many dogs are sold to china after the Seiger Shau! BTW i have visited for lovely country!

The whole world knows that the Kahler Heide people are nothing but a bunch of crooks!

Aristian, in your postings I read lots of agression and frustration. Is it the fact that I´m right with what I write that makes you so angry? I actually think you are very unhappy in your possition and I do feel sorry for you. I feel sorry because you have probably never had the opportunity to travel to other countrys and open your mind. Like I said you are still welcome to visit, you will feel like home as my best friend is from Pakistan living in Frankfurt as the Mnanager of a large international Bank. We will tour you and help you to open your mind and change your oppinion.
Best wishes my friend