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by Sunsilver on 09 January 2009 - 15:01
Bob, I remember something you posted once about how cheap dog food is made. I've tried to find that post, and can't (It was quite awhile ago!)
Could you please post that info again? I have someone claiming the only difference between the cheap stuff and the good stuff is the price, and better marketing!
He feeds his dogs Ol'Roy...

by snajper69 on 09 January 2009 - 15:01
Many time's that would be correct, you have to keep in mind that about 40% of pet food cost is marketing, but that applies only to bigger companies, local companies usually will have minimal to none marketing budget. Usually food obtain from a local dog food producers will use higher quality meat (if that is what they going for, sometimes they will just provide more food for your $) and still be priced under when comparing to for example RC, you need to keep in mind that bigger companies can afford to market their product to wider range of costumers, (now you have another cost that they have to re-compensate for logistics) that cost will be carried over to the final product cost. Small companies use word of the mouth promotion this is where they will most likely invest the saving's in better ingredients or improvements that their plant will use. (as well they will have almost non existent logistic cost as they will sell most of their product locally) Best example would be Martins K9 formula vs. RC while RC invests a lot of it’s $ in advertisement Martin's has similar ingredients but gives about 30% of more food. I will always choose to buy from local smaller companies vs. big establish corporation. Being, working in a corporate word I know how this works, they look at numbers more than ingredients, and they will always try to cut down the cost sometimes at the expense of costumer :). It will not always be so, but on average it will check out. :)

by snajper69 on 09 January 2009 - 15:01
If you find the other person view on this please share it I would love to hear it. Thanks.

by Sunsilver on 09 January 2009 - 16:01
What I remember Bob-O saying was they manufactured the food with the cheapest ingredients possible (mostly grains, especially corn) then they sprayed it with animal digest and recycled fat to make it palatable. Animal digest is (if I remember correctly) the processed contents of the intestines of slaughtered meat animals! The fat used comes from restaurants deep-fryers, and other sources where the fat is no longer considered fit for human consumption.
It really was enough to turn one's stomach!
Bob-O's not around very much these days. If anyone else remembers this post, and can find it, I'd appreciate it.
Thanks!

by snajper69 on 09 January 2009 - 16:01
I would not be surprise if some of it is true. Even a lot of times the companies that use what they claim "high quality meats" will use meats that were not suitable for human consumption. Sometimes we people buy-in in their marketing and forget that the bottom line is that they are in it for the money nothing else. From what I was able to find out a lot of the meat that is used in dog foods are meats form animals that died on the farm from no apparent reason. Keep in mind that everything worth $ is shipped to stores and sold to people lol hahaha :)

by sueincc on 09 January 2009 - 21:01
My father-in-law was senior vice president of Carnation International for many years, many moons ago. He told me how back then the only "nutritional science" that went into dog food was how to make it as cheaply as possible but still get dogs to eat it. They (the dog food kibble companies) discovered dogs loved rancid animal fat, so this was the industry wide speical ingredient sprayed on at the end of processing.

by Uber Land on 09 January 2009 - 21:01
I've heard of foods such as pedigree being sprayed with blood for flavor. I would doubt whats already been stated
by triodegirl on 09 January 2009 - 21:01
I remember the post from Bob-O. It was around the time all the tainted dog food was making the headlines, if that helps anyone find it. Forgive me if I'm wrong, but didn't he say he was an inspector or at least worked in some capacity at a plant where dog food was being made? He said he no longer worked at the plant but that's what he based his information on. I think :-)

by Sunsilver on 10 January 2009 - 00:01
Yes, that's correct, Trio. Bob is an engineer by profession, and he was laid off. The job in the pet food factory was a temporary job until he found something in his field again.

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