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Papas Fritas

by Papas Fritas on 08 January 2009 - 15:01

 I am not trying to be a gossip monger here, so please let me preface this question this way... Does anyone have any ACCURATE information regarding proposed rule changes to the schutzhund trial rules? I have heard that the A-frame exercise might be changed to mirror the "agility" requirements of the dog needing to touch both sides of the bottom of the ramp. I suppose that this is for the dog's shoulder joint health. I have also heard that they might do away with the courage test??? Again, this is out of concern for the dog's neck, back, etc... I am all for my dog's safety, but schutzhund with no courage test? Is there any serious chance that this could happen?


CrashKerry

by CrashKerry on 08 January 2009 - 15:01

Go to USA's website and read the report from the WUSV judges' meeting, both of those items were discussed there.


Papas Fritas

by Papas Fritas on 08 January 2009 - 16:01

thank you for the information


by SitasMom on 08 January 2009 - 17:01

do you happen to have a link to this page - please


Mystere

by Mystere on 08 January 2009 - 18:01

wwww.germanshepherddog.com= USA's website.


sueincc

by sueincc on 08 January 2009 - 18:01

Here you go (click, then scroll down):

http://www.germanshepherddog.com/members/index.htm

 


4pack

by 4pack on 08 January 2009 - 18:01

I hope they think long and hard before ruining the sport anymore.
 
RULE CHANGERS

There are no current rule changes. There will be some rule changes in 2010. Here are some items currently being discussed. These are only items being discussed and nothing is yet been determined.

  • In tracking the point assessment will change for articles so that if a dog misses all the article the dog cannot pass
  • In obedience the climbing wall may eliminated for Sch 1
  • On the climbing wall, the dog must touch certain area of the wall to get full points, jumping high and off the wall would be faulty
  • Heeling on leash may be back in Sch 1. This would incorporate the BH and Sch 1 in one and same showing
  • Required mandatory commands in certain phases
  • Required command in transports would be “transport”
  • Point allocation and dismissal would be closer or the same if the dog makes the same mistake in different parts of the protection
  • Big pressure to eliminate the long bite and the sticks hits. Currently the vast majority do not want to eliminate either
  • If the long grip is eliminated, it would follow the DPO call off, then a hold and bark, and re-attack
  • Talks regarding attack out of the blind in lieu of escape and defense
  • Under WUSV rules, the current would not change

by Oaklawn on 09 January 2009 - 01:01

Let's find of what germany is doing. Maybe there was a reason they had it part of the breeding test schutzhund.For years many people brought dogs in from germany, We need to be carful of the water down ideas we come up with in the good oh USA.


by TessJ10 on 09 January 2009 - 02:01

Don't be so quick to bash "the good oh USA."  I wouldn't be in the least surprised if the "water down ideas" are coming from Germany and not coming from the US.  Animal rights advocates have a much greater say-so in all of Europe.  Isn't it true that even the German rules state that the collars used on the dogs must be "animal rights approved"?  And the Germans don't even HAVE Schutzhund any more - the titles are now "Versatility" titles, not "Protection dog" titles.  Germany also has breed bans.

I agree that we should find out what Germany is doing, so that we can be forewarned as to what bad ideas they'll try to send over here.  Actually, I think we just saw a list of them posted here.


jletcher18

by jletcher18 on 09 January 2009 - 04:01

 

  • In tracking the point assessment will change for articles so that if a dog misses all the article the dog cannot pass
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  • good, thats how it should be.
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  • In obedience the climbing wall may eliminated for Sch 1
  • thats how it use to be
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  • On the climbing wall, the dog must touch certain area of the wall to get full points, jumping high and off the wall would be faulty
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  • thats why there are 3 rungs on the wall, teach your dog to go down properly.  i have yet to be at a trial where a dog jumped from the top and people on the side didnt flinch.
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  • Heeling on leash may be back in Sch 1. This would incorporate the BH and Sch 1 in one and same showing
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  • thats how it was before
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  • Required mandatory commands in certain phases
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  • havent there always been?
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  • Required command in transports would be “transport”
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  • in stead of the other "move out",  dont see much difference
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  • Point allocation and dismissal would be closer or the same if the dog makes the same mistake in different parts of the protection
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  • i always found it strange that you could lose big points the first time your dog was dirty and minor afterwards.  makes sense to me.
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  • Big pressure to eliminate the long bite and the sticks hits. Currently the vast majority do not want to eliminate either
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  • sorry to say but the rumor is this is from the showline camp.  if they do remove it i hope they keep it for the korung.
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  • If the long grip is eliminated, it would follow the DPO call off, then a hold and bark, and re-attack
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  • some say this would show more control.  to me it just shows different training
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  • Talks regarding attack out of the blind in lieu of escape and defense
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  • i like the attack out of the blind.  it use to be part of the sch
  • john






     


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