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by Gsdfan999 on 04 January 2009 - 18:01

 Hi everyone,

My female started her heat cycle 2 and a hlaf weeks  ago. The bleeding started 9 days ago and the swelling started 6 days before the bleeding started ago. However, this isnt the problem. I took my female to the vet and he inserted some device into her vagina. I think it was device which calculates how strong her heat cycle is. Anyway, after he inserted the device and got the result, he told me to mate her right away. It was the third day since her bleeding started and mating didnt go to well. My female although muzzled, kept trying to fight the male as he tried to mount her. After 15 minutes she finally accepted them and eventually, they formed a knot which lasted for 45 minutes.

Three days later(6th day) i took her again, she was very aggressive but eventually the two formed a knot which lasted for 30 minutes.

Another three days later(9th day) i took her again and as usual she was aggressive. However, the two formed a knot.

Why is my female soo aggressive? The matings were done in the presence of my vet. Will she become pregnant?


bobbyc1980

by bobbyc1980 on 04 January 2009 - 18:01

some dogs are just like that. as long as she stood to be bred, she should do her part. live cover semen lives 5-7 days in the vagina. usually the 11-14th day from first drop of blood is when the eggs are fertile and stay fertile for 48 hours. so as long as she was covered day 9 to day 13, she should be ok.

by Gsdfan999 on 04 January 2009 - 18:01

But the vet told me to breed her on the 3rd day! After inserting the instrument in her vag, he said she should be bred right away!Since its the 9th day of her heat cycle should i breed her on the 11th and 13th day aswell? That would make six matings in total!


bobbyc1980

by bobbyc1980 on 04 January 2009 - 18:01

when the vulva swells is not considered cycling if im not mistaken. when they start bleeding is day 1. so you started too early is what happened. should have first covered on day 9 then 11 or 12 and then 13 or 14 to be safe. that is usually when the female stands ready and begging to be bred. she was last covered on day 9, so its kinda iffey. should have gone once more

by Gsdfan999 on 04 January 2009 - 18:01

So ill breed her day after tomorrow. That would be day 11. I guess my vet is crazy!

Oh and she was bred on the 3rd day after  she started bleeding. Too early i guess!


Bob-O

by Bob-O on 04 January 2009 - 19:01

Unless you draw a blood sample and have its progesterone level tested, you will not know whether she is ready for breeding. The level of progesterone will start rising at the beginning of the estrus cycle until it reaches a level that indicates that a bitch is ready for breeding. At the beginning of that level you have about three (3) days or so to mate the bitch. Canine sperm can live for three (3) days or so, so a breeding done a day too early may take.

 The estrus cycle typically starts with a swollen vulva and a minute amount of bleeding. As it progresses the size of the vulva increases and so doe the amount of blood loss. The dark red discharge will begin to lighten in colour until it becomes a dark to pale straw colour. It is at this time of appearance change that the bitch is most likely fertile. But, even oldtimers can be fooled by this, so the progesterone level test is the only way to know the correct time that mating should begin.

A decent website for the explanation of this is: http://www.labbies.com/reproduction1.htm

The progesterone level test is not inexpensive, as the results must be known within twenty-four hours in order to be meaningful. But it is the only way to be sure that the mating begins at the start of ovulation.

As far as the agressive behaviour is concerned, many bitches are just that way, and especially so the first time. Sometimes when using a very successful and courageous sire it still requires a muzzle and human intervention, as one cannot risk breaking the penile bone of the sire's penis. In closing, I presume both dog and bitch have been tested for brucellosis prior to this breeding.

Best Regards,

Bob-O


by VonKohlenBerg on 04 January 2009 - 19:01

It is common for the aggression. All females are different, my ret. female bred on day 18-20th. My friends female will accept on day 9 and will continue to stand until day 17, very weird heat cycle.


by Gsdfan999 on 04 January 2009 - 19:01

Thanks Bob-O! Yes both dogs for tested for brucellosis. VonKohlenBerg i guess ill just have to get a progesterone level test.


kitkat3478

by kitkat3478 on 04 January 2009 - 19:01

     I myself can't understand the "necessity" for assisted matings. Yes, AI if you are importing the semen for a specific male, but when you have the male and female on hand. WHY is ALL this help necessary, and Why, pay vets for all the tests and interceptions????


by Gsdfan999 on 04 January 2009 - 20:01

Hey i just called my vet and the instrument he put in my female's vagina was a dog ovulation detector.The dog ovulation detector signalled that my female was ready to be bred.






 


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