Frozen semen versus live breeding - Page 1

What are the pros and cons on using frozen semen instead of a live breeding?

pups birthed using frozen semen will be better suited to withstand cold temperatures like those found in canada and other far north places.

but the con of frozen, is that you have to do all the hard work yourself. and there is nothing fun to watch.

live breeding is more fun to be a part of.

The pros? (1) The availability of the semen without flying a dog or bitch a long distance. (2) A more sure impregnation if she is indeed fertile, ready to concieve, and the semen is surgically implanted. (3) The ability to use a stud who may have passed on. (4) It may be the only way to breed a bitch who has extreme hostility towards any male. (5) There is less change of severe injury to the male as his penile bone could be broken.

The cons? (1) The additional cost, but this may be cancelled when compared to the cost of transporting and boarding the dog or bitch. (2) The inability to register the litter with the S.V. as they do not allow artificial insemination of any type to be used to produce a registerable litter. However, the A.K.C. will allow this type of litter registration and they have a special form for it.

There is no doubt that I prefer a live and natural breeding, but I think the pros outweigh the cons. I have done this with two (2) different bitches who were both hostile towards the male, but who were both receptive to the male the second time they were bred. All things considered I strongly advise that someone contemplating an artificial breeding to perform the normal health examinations on both the male and female to make sure that each is brucellosis free just as they should with a natural breeding.

I do think that within time the S.V. will warm to this fairly common practice since we now have DNA verification.

Best Regards,

Bob-O

by Gretsch on 25 December 2008 - 05:12	Gretsch Posts: 61 Joined: Thu Jan 24, 2008 03:06 am
pups birthed using frozen semen will be better suited to withstand cold temperatures like those found in canada and other far north places

REALLY ,,Is that a JOKE??? So, Would a frozen SPERM shepherd, make a BETTER  SIBERIAN HUSKY, than a NATURAL BRED HUSKY???

    Sorry but STUPIDITY is NOT one of my STRONG POINTS!!!,

tis the season!

KitKat, I believe what would help them become even more resistent to the cold is if you fed the bitch vanilla ice cream everyday as well. But remember only vanilla not chocolate(chocolate is poisonous) The cold icecream will help the frozen spermed pups to become super cold resistent while if you used the same icecream feeding method on live breeding, the live pups would become the equivalent of the original frozen bred pups. Don't forget though the super cold resisitent pups would have to eat fish and seal, to mimic the northern climates.
Its true, I read it on the internet.

Guillermo, find a GOOD Repro Vet. Know your bitch.... cycles, tempermant, breeding tendencies... all of these have great effect. The success only comes down the quality of the semen, fertility of the bitch and having an adequate enough vet who can judge the approprate time to inseminate the bitch and indeed to do the procedure correctly. Some vets can inseminate the bitch with frozen two times through transcervical AI's.

Things that will come in play... weather(maybe its too cold to fly your bitch), fedex would probably ship the semen.

Maybe you are like me and have to deal with the semen crossing the border. Could be held up at customs and you can be screwed and miss the breeding. So get the frozen nice and early. If its fresh chilled, do your homework and make all arrangements very early.

Get your vet to talk to the vet on the other side... only helps.

Much more advice but Im hoping this thread dissapears for the sake of the first person who responded to this thread.

One final piece of advice., live or frozen DO YOUR PROGESTERONE, never cheap out on this. Its the only sure thing in breeding. That, and stress.

Good luck

Dan Juros

Dan,

Thank you for the advice; I did not realized there was so much you have to do in advance to make sure everything goes well. That's why I asked.

Thank you,

Willie

Dan, I have been able to obtain the same cold resistant results in my dogs by holding a popsicle against the dogs scrotum during the tie.

I guess it is true "great minds think alike".

Rik

 RIK, LOL  too funny!

hodie, I'm into my 3rd. generation of this project. Russian reasearch has proven that no dogs will survive longer than 3 days at  -75 C. My only other option would be to bring them in the house.

So, should the OZONE crap out, guess who is going be offering "amazing pups" on the PDB. Yea ole "Rik". And don't think I will ever forget your "LOL" at my efforts. Of course, if you chage your user name, maybe you can still get a pup.

Rik

this is an interesting thread... I am not sure what people are serious and not.

I am being serious.... My girl, Akeelah is from A.I. she LOVES the COLD, she will lay near any draft. She loves to be in the ice. My boy Rama, regular breeding... loves the snow too.. but avoids the thresholds, and doesn't want to stay out in the snow by himself.. as she would.

Regardless...

Question, will I be able to register my A.I. dog with the SV when I start trying to title her?

Happy Holidays!

Jacob, Rama and Akeelah