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by Oaklawn on 22 December 2008 - 14:12

Looking at both dogs, show line and working line german shepherds. Can it be proved that more hip head and temperment problems come out of the show lines? Whitch type dog lives longer? Is the answer fact  and documented? If schutzhund USA knows the working line is what the founder had in mind than why does it promote the show line  also? Why do show line dogs cost more?  Why is there two sets of standards for schutzhund and the german shepherd?


Mystere

by Mystere on 22 December 2008 - 17:12

The organization's name is United Schutzhund Clubs od America, aka USA. "Schutzhund USA" is the name of the magazine. Sorry, pet peeve.

by Vikram on 22 December 2008 - 17:12

 because its the humans who want to define their own shepherds. One size shoe does not fit all:)

 

regards

 


by Prodogz on 22 December 2008 - 18:12

Oaklawn,

 

 

This is a very difficult question to answer because in order to show scientific fact you have to have case studies and a large enough pool of both show dogs and working dogs to get form a hypotheses from, but then you get into the debate of what defines a "working dog" or a "show dog". It’s probably fare to say that all VA dogs in the past 10-15 years have been from certain breedings that could be defined as "Show dogs" meaning the breeders goal was to produce a dog with a certain autonomy over producing a dog with high drives & hard grip which is a working dogs breeder goal. Only problem is there would not be enough of a pool of VA dogs to pull from in comparison to the working dog to get clear results on which category produces longevity and better hips. The second question regarding USA is a touchy subject, without stepping on toes or rustling feathers, just remember organizations like AKC, CKC & USA are businesses and like all businesses if you are making profit you will go broke, so if business know that a certain group of people buy their product or purchase advertising more then others, they are more likely to gear their product to apees that group more. A good example would be “17 Magazine”, I doughty you will see to many adds for medical equipment and heart pressure medicine but you will see clothing ads and cell phone ads. In regards to price, honestly if I shared my option I would be pelted with tomatoes. Hope this helps to answer your question, if your truly interested in genetics check out “The German Shepherd Dog: A Genetic History: Malcolm B. Willis:

 

 


by Held on 22 December 2008 - 18:12

Why is the sky blue?.have a nice one.


wuzzup

by wuzzup on 22 December 2008 - 18:12

Tomatoes sting!!! oucHHHHHHH


by jayne241 on 22 December 2008 - 20:12

 Because as the sunlight passes through the atmosphere, the blue wavelengths are scattered every which way and end up coming to our eyes from all parts of the sky.  That's also why the sun looks red at sunrise and sunset - the light is passing through even more atmosphere, scattering even more wavelengths, until the remaining light coming in a straight line from the sun is predominantly red.

 

You're welcome.  


yellowrose of Texas

by yellowrose of Texas on 22 December 2008 - 21:12

Love jayne241's answer..Sounds just like Jane Stephenhagen would have written..lol

 

Yr


SchHBabe

by SchHBabe on 23 December 2008 - 03:12

Oaklawn, I don't know if anyone has done any data analysis to prove whether or not show vs. workingline dogs are more or less healthy. This would be an ambitious project and difficult to prove. You will have the same difficulty trying to prove which lines have the longest lifespan. Anyone making claims on this matter had better be prepared to offer one helluva convincing set of data.

SchHBabe

by SchHBabe on 23 December 2008 - 03:12

Next question: why does USA promote the show dog? Technically speaking, USA promotes SchH as a breed worthiness evaluation tool for GSDs, but also as a sport. As such, USA encompasses members that train with a variety of breeds, including mutts. The goal of that organization is not to promote one "type" of GSD over another. Whether it SHOULD... well that is another matter and beyond the scope of this discussion.





 


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