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by gimme10mins on 23 January 2005 - 20:01
It is to my knowledge that linebreeding closer than 3-2 or 2-3 is not permitted. I have been searching through this site for a long time and I have come across a lot of linebreeding closer than that. For example Leif von der Noriswand he is linebred on Zito Noriswand 2-2. I know that it was a big scandal behind it. What about VA Tom Bauhofer Land he is line bred 2-2 on the C and F Farbenspiel litter (Connie-Fello). Is there not any consequence for that? If you say well they were two different litters what about Zarra von Funkenspiel, she is linebred on the "L" litter Neuen Berg Linda-Lasso (2-2). Can someone explain this to me. I know the AKC allows it but what if two german imports are bred in America and their progeny has a linebreeding closer than 3-2 will the puppies be allowed to be dual registered? What was the consequence for Leif Noriswand? What about VA Tom? Thanks in advance.
by lioness9918 on 23 January 2005 - 21:01
www.germanshepherddog.com
"-Incest breeding: Matings between parents and offspring, grandparents and nieces and nephews, also matings between relatives of the first and second degree (nieces and nephews or siblings and cousins). Inbreedings closer than 2-3 or 3-2, also among siblings, are not permitted."
2-3 breeding is allowed, just not anything closer..still, statistically & in theory, the offspring of a 2-3 breeding have (my math might not the best here) 40% of their genetic make-up paired. this can be great if the trait you are aimming to reproduce is the trait that pairs up, but can be very bad if the opposite is true. & also, most traits are polygenetic, i know...
if you look closely, there are dogs on this site that have been mated to their sires (yuck)

by Silbersee on 23 January 2005 - 21:01
Zarra von Funkenspiel was not bred in Germany. It looks like an Hungarian breeder. Apparantly, in Hungary it is allowed to do such a close linebreeding. Leif on der Noriswand had a different sire, Hanno von der Wienerau. He flunked DNA testing, which was a big scandal back in 1999. After endless discussions and investigations, the true sire, Sasko von der Noriswand was revealed. It supposedly was an accidental breeding. Since Leif already had a lot of offspring, it was decided to not ban him afterall. A little resemblance to the Nero Noebachtal scandal this year.
The T-litter vom Bauhofer Land puzzles me, too. I have to ask around why this breeding was allowed. Normally, it should not have been possible.
Chris
by oana on 23 January 2005 - 22:01
About Zarra - where FCI is making the pedigrees and not SV, 2-2 in perfectly OK.Zarra(she look great) was bred in Croatia, but also in Hungary, Romania make posible 2-2 !

by gimme10mins on 23 January 2005 - 22:01
What was the Nero Nobachtal scandal? How can an accidental breeding occur?
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