OB at a year old - Page 1

So per the people I train with and what a lot of other people follow around here im not putting any OB on my dog until he is a year old so roughly 5 more months.  I have been told to just put enough on him to be able to live with him in the house which is what i have done.

Well i go into a pet store the other day because they were having a big sale and so my dog is pulling. I didnt mind it at the time but then the manager comes over and says that he uses a prong for his dogs and that i should get one that it would really stop the pulling blah blah blah i tuned him out because it really pisses me off when random people come up and tell me how to train. I dont bother telling people anymore why i dont put OB on him until a year because i just get blanks stares and they think im crazy.

So then i took him to the groomer today and i go to pick him up and ask how he was. The dude who washed him said when am i going to put him in a OB class. He said that all he wanted to do when getting a bath was play play play and yes he snaps his jaws sometimes when he gets excited but never bites he isnt close enough to even think that when he is snapping but he went on to say that he is a very playful dog and has a lot of puppy left so he didnt really piss me off.

I just needed to rant BUT what do you guys think? Should i start the OB early or what? I would like to wait a year but he is a hard/dominant dog and idk whether to wait or start now and what would have you guys done in my situation?

What do you consider OB?Just formal, or do you talk about manners?

I grow some of my dogs that need to work in the house and expect some manners, that includes leashwalking, knowing sit and down and so on, but never too serious, what they learn in play sticks with them forever. I make sure they know about everything and go in the pace of the dog.

Letting a dog be a dog until they are 10 to 12 months old, is often missunderstood. Yes, they have to be a dog and play and just goof off, and be puppies, but some things they need to learn early, that is just part of the game. I don't know how you plan on training your dog, but when you stay positive from early on, with positive methods, Obedience is not a problem, and will not intervene with the later training. But when you plan on using compulsion or avoidance based training, training with lots of punishment, then yes, it will have a big effect on the performance of the dog later, and then you should wait, no actually I correct this, you shouldn't train a dog at all!

If you do not tech your dg the basics early you probably have to end up using avoidance based training. Or a tremendous amount of time teaching it positive why do it hard when it can be so easy? I never had a problem with putting OB on early, as log as you keep it fun and don't take the confindence out of the dog.

If you let the dog pull you arround and drag you all over, you might not have a chance, but to use compulsion based training. Why do that to your dog?

Lots of dogs have performed great, beeing trained with compulsion, but in actuallity, they have performed despite of compulsion based training.