GSD Rescue BREEDING a RESCUE Dog!!!!! - Page 1

Got a call yesterday from a friend who placed a dog with GERMAN SHEPHERD RESCUE OF CENTRAL FLORIDA, a 501c3 rescue. This dog was placed in rescue because of Severe Fear & Mental issues. Dog has been on PROZAC. She was contacted by Rae Davidson, head of the rescue, asking for the AKC papers on the dog. When asked why she wanted them, my friend was told that Rae wanted to breed the dog. She said she wanted to supplement the income for the rescue, as they have had to spend a lot on heartworm treatments lately. The rescue has the dogs AKC application, but needs a supplemental transfer. My friend informed them that she would NOT get them a transfer and that she was APPALLED that they would even Consider breeding a dog that was signed over to RESCUE. They have had the dog for 3 months and have not spayed her yet. What is wrong here? Rescue making more dogs to increase the problem? Does anyone know who else we can contact to stop this situation? Thank You!

Severe Fear & Mental issues

any animal (humans included) with these issues should not breed.

Your friend should not have placed that dog in rescue to begin with. I'm not saying the rescue is doing the ethical thing, hell no, but why would your friend think a dog on prozac has a chance at a normal life in the hands of Joe Public??????? The dog's owner should have sucked it up and put the dog down, taking responsibility for his/her own problems. Either that, or take the dog to a training facility and have it properly assessed. Maybe it's mentally screwed up from living alone in the back yard all its life. WHO KNOWS? Rescues are NOT for ruined dogs. They are for homeless GOOD dogs. Anyway, that's the way I see it, having seen perfectly nice dogs put down due to lack of shelter space. 

Incidentally, I think those people at that rescue are generally a$$holes. They are SELLING dogs for up to $700 each just because they can. Ridiculous. People in Florida must have more money than sense.

My friend got the dog from a trainer after she was returned to her breeder. The dog was not on Prozac while she was with her.  This rescue specializes in dogs with temperament issues. The dog DEFINITELY SHOULD NOT BE BRED! The question is how do we stop this unethical rescue!

"she was APPALLED that they would even Consider breeding a dog that was signed over to RESCUE."

There are some fabulous dogs ending up in rescue.  What appalls me MUCH more is this: "Severe Fear & Mental issues."

More proof, as if any were needed, that many, many "rescue" people are idjits.

yes if the dog has that severe of issues it should be put down...sad but not sadder that what could happen

I worked very closely with a rescue in my area for a while and still do second hand.
I woudl say a large majority say 80%+ that end up in the rescue are due to insufficient
owners who develope issues in there dog. I personally have had my hands on many
shepherds with severe issues in nearly every catagory. SA, Fear Aggression, Dominance
issues, resource guarding, dog/cat/kids problems, social issues and so on and so forth.
Just because a dog has issues in the resscue does not mean the animal needs to die.

I personally own a Shepherd that that is extremely dominant hard male. He was biting
everything he could.There are 2 dogs missing ears that were place out of that rescue
from him. He would come up the leash on you in a heart beat, no kids,no cats, no dogs.
He now lives in a home with 4 dogs ( 2 other males 1intact, 1 F), a cat, and plays with
neighborhood kids. He has an awesome unwaivering disposition about him.
Many wanted this dog dead. All these dogs need is some direction and a intelligent
handler who can rehabilite them back into society. If the rescue had there way one
of the best dogs I have owned would be dead right now.

I am not a person who is 100% against putting a dog down. Some dogs cant be rehabbed
or cant be placed. I understand that and its all fine and dandy. I agree most rescue people
in the shepherd rescue community havent a clue what is going on musless understand the
dogs. However many of the dogs in those rescues have issues not because they are genetically
predisposed to have them but because of some ignorant owner or handler. I know the rescue I
am speaking of can not handle a working dog now could they recognize or assess one. All of
the dogs of working caliber are listed a problem childs and special handling only. The real ones
are sent to a trainer to get ready for police or working home assessments. So what does this tell
you?


Breeding dogs goes against every moral character i have met in rescues. I do not beleive rescues
should ever be bred. I have been ostricized from the one i worked with for purchasing working dogs.
So i dont know how or why they would attempt such a foolish notion. Its absurd. I personally do not
trust nor care for many rescue volunteers from my past experiences. That is not to say there isnt good
ones out there but as a generalization i dont care for them.

There is a guarneteed surefire means of insuring that a dog put into rescue will not be bred.

SPAY AND NEUTER

It is the perfect solution to this problem.  I have done that with a shepherd that I rescued. I spent a year getting a wound to heal and her behavior about perfect.  She was a half sister to my male.  I even had her hips prelimed to make her more desirable. 

This dog was a wild child and I don't know if it was genetic or the horrific life she had tied to a dog house in the back yard of an elderly woman slipping into dementia.  She was attacked by a racoon and had her throat nearly slit open.  She was taken to a vet, but the crazy lady didn't pay the bill or do followup care.

I'll spare you the not-so-boring details of how I got her out of there at eight months old and stark raving mad.  I will also skip how I civilized her-my huge male shepherd deserves a lot of credit.

When she got to the point of very good behavior and was reliably off leash trained, I put the word out to breeders and friends that I was looking for a home.  I had her spayed right then, to make sure that there was enough time for her full recovery from the hysterectomy, before she would go to her new family.

Her new family paid a 500.00 adoption fee and I gave 250.00 to the person driving her down to Southern California to her new life and a good life it was.

I never spent a minute worrying whether somebody was breeding her.

Michele

in the rescue i have dealt with it is protocol to spay and neuter upon entry for adult and in the adoption contract if its a pup must be completed by a certain date recommended by vet. I thought that was standard practice but i was proven wrong.