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by PowerHaus on 20 November 2008 - 22:11
SG Troja Geereneck, SchH3, IPO3, Kkl2
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/496198.html
She is coming into heat and I was thinking about Basko Heldmann if he is available or maybe Bobby Salztalblick if I can track him down. This bitch has REAL civil agression but is also clear in the head! She is a great tracking dog as well as a very happy obedience dog. She was bred to Elutte Mohenweise and also to Lex Kleitzer See perviously. The Lex puppies will be a year old in January and are very promissing as I have kept one and she is looking impressive and is better looking than her mother!!
I think she needs a male that will pass on good pigment as well as improved structure.
What's your opinion?
Vickie
by Kandi on 20 November 2008 - 23:11
I am not familiar with Basko or Bobby, but I do agree on seeking out a dog who will improve pigment. Good luck!!!

by Kalibeck on 21 November 2008 - 01:11
'I don't know anything about this male, but I love his look & pigment. Pretty dynamite pedigree, too. Malik von der Huelhin Haus. He's on the database, too. jh

by yukonhausberg on 21 November 2008 - 04:11

by 4pack on 21 November 2008 - 04:11
Wow great pick Yukon. Beautiful pedigree on that male. Who ownes that dog anyway?

by jletcher18 on 21 November 2008 - 04:11

by jletcher18 on 21 November 2008 - 04:11
vickie, how did the ellute pups turn out? i have a litter of ellute grandpups. father is
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/554966.html
i have seen and worked him. couldnt be happier with the pups.
pm or email me if you would like more info.
john

by yukonhausberg on 21 November 2008 - 04:11
4 pack ,I own Bosz, he is only Sch2 do to my lack of experience but will get his Sch3 this summer for sure .His son that I have just got his Sch1 this August . Here is a link to one of Bosz's son's with Bernhard Flinks. I have worked with Lex Kleitzer See two years ago learning to do Helper work ,very nice male as well .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d73tfwfi4E
Randy

by TIG on 21 November 2008 - 12:11
Just curious why would you not consider breeding her to Darko? http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/para.utkoma?fadir=350490&modir=496198 . Generally speaking a 2-3 linebred dog tends to be very powerful for breeding purposes as it fixes types and traits.
Or in the alternative breed her to a Macho son or grandson. I personally like the Racoon dogs and as a family they have an incredible record of normal hips and elbows. See http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/385839.html Daucus or http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/385842.html Dshinghis or http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/402549.html Flax or 3/4brother Giacomo http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/431074.html These all have the advantage of also bringing in Troll Milinda. I don't know if any of the Raccon's B litter is titled, alive (dob 1998) and still breeding but that was Macho to a Fero daughter. For the future you might also want to look at the H and i litters.
In the US you have SG Xandor Vom Rheinland Sch3 2007 HOT Sch1 champion http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/430914.html or his brother Xantor.
Or Xandor's sire if still alive/breeding Troll v Kassler Kreuz http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/111825.html
A Macho son in the US http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/130043.html SG Tasso Ortenburg OFA Excellent Sch3 tho he would be 12 or one of his sons. Also in Wisconsin a Macho son http://www.vomhausmiller.com/boomer.htm or http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/391966.html
If you prefer to go more the Fero route a dog now in this country is Kanto Firecatcher. http://www.starkepfoten.com/german-shepherd-information/germanshepherdmales.htm http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/para.utkoma?fadir=368934&modir=496198 produces this linebreeding

by TIG on 21 November 2008 - 12:11
Or http://www.altebaumkennel.com/pages/males/aiko.html or http://www.foxtal.com/ali_vom_kassler_kreuz.htm
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/para.utkoma?fadir=325411&modir=496198
- 5 - 5,5........................................... in V Fero vom Zeuterner Himmelreich
- 5 - 5............................................. in V Askia vom Froschgraben
- 4 - 5............................................. in Mona von der Döllenwiese
Finally Limited linebreeding (5-5 on Umsa) but should be a very complementary pedigree V (USA) Jago von der Bültenstiege http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/126465.html
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