Blood results - Page 1

Got all the blood results back just now so here goes.

His full blood panel indicated high phos. level and (vet said was because he is a growing pup) results that indicate a digestive inflammation. So good news there.

One concern that i think im having or maybe im just paranoid is that right before the TLI and other tests were done they gave him a little dog treat. You know the little treats they have at the vet? Could that have thrown the whole fasting thing off making these results inaccurate? Anyway here are the results

Cobalamin 168      Normal Range 251-908

Folate 8.1      Normal Range 7.7-24.4

TLI 12    Normal Range 5.7-45.2

What does this all mean in laymens terms? I told the vet on Mon. we could have a plan of action so what are your guys suggestions? would HA help this or not? What should i do?

Next time dont let anyone feed your dog..Say No thank you, never let that happen. They have a reason to fast a dog before testings.

You are in control of YOUR dog , no one else.

I'm lost anyway, what does this concern? Vet didn't explain the results to you? Tell us exactly what the vet said ; if he didn't say anything worthwhile, find another vet.

It is very frustrating to read all the postings on our base of people who PAY money to a vet and leave with no info and no instructions, and no vision of what or how the dog got into this situation. You must find a vet who knows german shepherds , if this is a gsd we are talking about.

Because he is a growing pup....................I SURE HOPE  HE IS GROWING.    WHAT KIND OF ANSWER IS THAT...HIGH LEVELS  OR ABOVE HIGH LEVEL....

First thing to be worried about is the  defeciency shown on the Cobalamin?  Did the vet tell you your dog is anemic.  A low Cobalamin indicates defeciency in the B12 in your dog...Get on the ball and get some B12 liquid at Eckerds drug or go to a health food store.  

Feed this day some raw liver,  three times a day in small amounts with the dogs regular food..no chicken liver either, beef or calf...walmart has the fresh,,not frozen, in the meat condiments,,,also  raw calf heart , cut in small pieces, give with regular food.

?????? What did the dog do or does he have diahrea? I will go search the threads for reference , I guess. But you difinately have a dog that needs B12.

I just found the original thread. I don't understand the Cobalamin 168, not being discussed with you.

You said test came back negative for any problem in that area., but clearly he is on the very low side of the scale.??

You do not need to go to a vet to give your dog  B12. They have highly digestible and fast acting B12 and any vet can give you the proper dosage if you ask him or her.

Another thing I learned is that INNOVA is very rich....very and some dogs do not do well digestion wise on it. Could be some problem on the blow out you are discribing  along with something else.

keep dog on one diet and quit changing him from one or the other...Bland and add liver or heart . If you are giving a probiotic in pill or grandular form, continue that...feed small amounts two times a day and be sure to moisten with hot water...Don;t need the BLOAT factor to come up with all the other .

I'm baffled by your many threads. You have a dog who has diarrhea and is not doing well. You seem to be switching foods. Somebody at the vet's gave your dog a treat before a test that required fasting. Yes, that could throw the test off. You left the vet's office seemingly without any instructions or explanations or maybe you didn't actually talk to your vet yet. I can't tell.

Feed only one food. YR is right, Innova is very rich and some dogs don't do well on it. She is also right that your dog is too low in B-12. What was the red blood cell value? IF it was low, your dog is definitely anemic. Your vet can tell you what supplements are needed, but if the dog is anemic,  iron and B-12 would be what I would give.

If I'm remembering correctly and your dog has diarrhea, boil some chicken breast and rice. Should be about half chicken and half rice when cooked and the chicken should be cut up into small pieces.  Add a little beef or calf liver (only an ounce or so per serving for an adult - liver is rich.)  Feed this for at least 5 days and see how his digestion is. You can go to a health food store and buy pro-biotics and digestive enzymes to add to the cooled food just before you serve it. Get the kind that have a complete formulas.

You should be able to talk to your vet about these things, especially the test results and what they mean. Your vet should be explaining things to you. If he or she isn't, then you need to get another opinion from another vet. Ask questions until you understand and don't be intimidated. It's your responsibility to do the best you can for your dog.

I would suspect malabsorption due to chronic Giardia.

Get an antigen test, false negatives using fecal floats are EXTREMELY common.

Most vets seem to be clueless about Giardia, which is now epidemic.

If it is Giardia, Panacur C granules. Skip the Flagyl unless a course of it will assist by taking down secondary bacterial infection from the long term chronic issues.

I have been through this, and succeeded in a permanent cure after going through 2 years to get the problem diagnosed. 

I used Panacur to kill the Giardia, Golden Seal capsules to heal the tissue and Enzymatic Therapy Acidopholus Pearls for  intestinal flora.

I wish you luck in your quest to heal your dog.  Don't give up.

TheOne

First of all, I would like to know what your own vet said about the results, and any treatment suggested. In the meantime, I will say, that your dog's results are similar to my dog's, in that the B!2 is low. Although my boy's was even lower, at less than 100. I have been reliably informed by The Internal Medicine Specialist that we saw, that the only way to improve the B12 level is by injection. No amount of food or supplement will do it. My dog has regular B12 injections and they have helped greatly. The low B12 also indicates SIBO so he would need some antiobiotics for this. Also I wouldn't worry too much about having a small treat before the test, as it would not affect the B12 or Folate results. It may affect the TLI as they should be fasted, but I really don't think a very small treat would make much difference, but if you are really concerned, then have the test done again. I would also try one of the hydrolysed protein foods. I know they are expensive, but to me it's worth the cost. If not, then going by the blood results, I would stick to a food with, one protein source, and not too high, and most importantly a low fat level. Hope this helps a bit.

Check out the GI Lab in Texas Website (cant remember it off hand) Go to COBALAMIN INFORMATION--This is a brilliant article, and shows just how important B12 really is.