what line to start with?? - Page 1

I want to start in schutzhund and looking for advice on what line: west german,ddr, czheck to start with. I will be starting with a female and then eventually breed me a male to really competet with when im ready.

thanks

james

doesn't matter what line to start with.  find a breeder who is producing what traits you want.  they have dogs who are successful in the working field, and produce it go with that.

I've always respected Dornburg kennel in North Texas.  they do not produce alot of puppies, but when Laurie does breed,  she has some really nice dogs. she has placed pups all over the world and they have been highly successful in world trials and top competition

Just remember, DDR can (not always, but it is the generally concensus) take up to 3-4 years to fully mature and develope mentally.  some people do not like to wait that long to title a dog.

Czech dogs are basically out of ddr/ west german working and showlines.  you just have to go back many generations to see it.

thank you. i have read other places that the cxech dogs are great police dogs but not very good sport or companion dogs and was wondering if this is true. Generally I like the drr and czech dogs.

I have a 1/2 DDR and 1/2 czech female.  granddaughter to the famous Norbo Ben Ju.  you won't find a calmer, more sweet dog anywhere.  I think DDR and czech lines get real attached to their handler.  and they do make good family dogs, just depends on how they are raised, and the background.

its generally the west german stuff that has the insane extreme drives.  look at this years WUSV participants. most are WG bred dogs, the winner was a Troll vh Malinda son.

you have extreme's in all lines. and you can find great companions in all lines.   just know what you are looking for and go with a breeder who is breeding that.

czech, ddr is a nice mix

is my understanding that ddr czech and slavic dogs share many of the same traits as far as drive and working ability

Do your home work first and pick two or three Top breeders then vist each in turn

Do not tell them what you want but let them do the talking, i.e about there own Dogs and there merits,once that is over you will have a good idea as to how you think they are as breeders and people, and if what they have to say suits your purpose

Say you will be in touch and go home to think hard once you have visted them all

Then if one suits you make an appointment to go back for a second look because you can never take it all in in one vist

If you choose to then have a Pup from one, Do the decent thing and contact the other Breeders you went to see,and to say thank you for there time but now you are set up with a pup of your choice

Steve

Very good advice Steve. Do you homework so you won't have to be the kind of person that comes back to this board and complains about a breeder that screw them over when it really loooks like the buyer didn't know what he want or he simply didn't know what he was getting himself into. Good luck :).

It's not necessarily that one line is better than the other but as everyone stated it's the genetics that play a big part so yes it is essential to research the pedigree of a particular dog you are considering to purchase BEFORE you buy it.

I have czech/ddr dogs and they all interact very well with my family.  It is true that they take longer to mature so if you are impatient this can get frustrating but the end result is rewarding.  I have a male now not quite 2 years old that is coming along so nicely in his training but he's still not quite at the maturity level he needs to be at in order to kick em up a notch.  You'd be surprised what a few months can change in a dogs maturity level.

i have experience with training hunting dogs so i definitely understand developing maturity. I have no porblem with slow maturity since my line of hunting dogs that i had took 3-4 yrs to really mature.