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if i want to registered my dog under my name and i dont have a kennel, do i use "dogname von myself" or "dogname vom myself"?

thank you for your time.

von der means: of the

vom means: of

I think it depends on how you want it to sound, not just if you attach your kennel name.  But I am new to this too.  You can go to English to German dictionary on-line and look up word meanings. 

Teri

von sounds sensible than vom, but this is my oppinion

 Do a search on the thread :

Calling all Germans - need and explanation  

(dated 5/3/07)

(Quite a fun and informative post on the topic as I recall!)

Good question.  I have two GSDs and one is "vom" and the other "von".  What's the difference?  Anyone?

It actual depends what follows the von/vom, and what "case" that word requires.

If you use a name, it somewhat depends on if the name (not the actual person) is male or female:

Example:           vom Roland..... but........... von Karla.....  but then again....... vom Haus Karla   (with the Haus being sexless)

So it can get complicated. If you want, just post or pm the full name you like to use. I am german btw.

"vom Kraftwerk" and the other one is "von Buchnußberg".  So from your expalanation, Kraftwerk would me a male name and Buchnußberg a female name?  Thanks...

Here is a link to a rather comprehensive thread about this very same subject:  http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/bulletins_read/95899.html#96443

  I found the explanation given by Chris (Silbersee) to be the easiest for me to understand:

Calling all Germans - Need an explanation... by Silbersee on 02 May 2007 - 20:05

Silbersee Posts: 937 Joined: Sat Aug 07, 2004 07:30 pm

Not really Day! Example: "John aus Baltimore" would still be translated to "John from Baltimore", or if you wonder about "der" , let's say "John aus der Hafenstadt" - "John from the harbour city". Two most prominent examples come to mind: "Aus Wattenscheid" - from (the city of) Wattenscheid, or "Aus Agrigento" - from Agrigento - a place in Sicily. "Out of the" is more like a "physical description" and that is not meant in this context. To add to Bea's explanation: If you designate a name of a place or a person's name, you use "von". I.e. "von Hamburg", "von Deutschland", "von Familie Schmidt", "von Arminius", unless it is distinctly masculine or feminine, like "vom Kaiserwald" (Wald - Woods, Forrest is alway masculine) or "von der Wienerau" (Au or Aue -a serene meadow next to a creek or river - is always feminine). Other examples for feminine names of places - Straße (street), Burg (fortress), Stadt (city) Neutral: Schloß (castle), Haus (house) Masculine: Berg (hill, mountain) but: das Gebirge (mountains), Fluß (river, unless it is a specific river, which is feminine: die Elbe, die Donau etc. Ok, I better stop. I am sure you are not interested in German Grammar 101. German is a difficult language to learn, I admit that. Anybody who wishes to pick a German kennel name is advised to ask a German for help with the proper grammar, since there are always some sort of exceptions to the rule, lol. Chris (also qualified as a German to answer that)

Hahaha.....Falcon............I agree with Silbersee, it can get tricky realy quick.

Vom Kraftwerk.......... it is sexless and relates to a certain industrial building

Von Buchnussberg..........it is male according to the ending, yet this one could be either way depending on what the word relates to ...... using von if it is a city or family name, using vom if it is the name of a mountain or other landmark.

Example: Axel von Hamburg.............but Axel vom Hamburger Hafen..........or Axel vom Hafen        (Hafen=Harbor)

Axel aus Hamburg (city)...............Axel aus dem Hamburger Hafen............Axel aus dem Hafen (male)...... or .....aus der Wienerau (female) but both relating to a landmark

Why don't you just call your kennel "Vom von der Aus" German Shepherds?