Would YOU use a clone? - Page 1

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I came across this article today and I coudn't help but wonder...if they managed to clone a great GSD from the past, or a great dog who died young tragically- would you use them? I know if there was an available clone of Fedor Arminius or Cello Romerau, I'd be hard pressed to put aside my utter disgust for cloning.  Ultimately I don't think I could bring myself to do it, but the thought made me wonder.

There are plenty of people out there who pay WELL over the $30k cloning fee for a top GSD, so the high end GSD market definitely has those kind of high rollers.  If cloning starts to impact the gene pools of purebred dogs- how do you feel about it? Would you utilize such a dog?

NO!

I don't breed dogs, but I DO breed horses.  I wouldn't use frozen semen from a deceased animal either.  I believe that once they are gone, it is time to MOVE ON, and use animals in the new "generations", rather than "living in the past".

 I,d love a clone I could be in 2 places at once, Look how it helped Dr. Evil." minnnie me quit humping the laser"

Personally No I would not. I think that is really messing with Gods work. I know science has come along way but for the good of whom? people or the companies?

I also think  - why would anyone in their right mind want to live until they are 90+ specially in todays world? As I get older and greyer I think this world is going to hell in a hand bag so much quicker then when I was younger (at that time I thought it was going fast).

you clone the good , you clone the bad, you clone them both and there you have the facts of LIfe :)  Actually how quickly MAN can screw something up!

JMPO

EK

They have already found that cloning does not produce an animal that is exactly the same in appearance as its parent. The coat pattern can be quite different. I'd be interested to know how exact the animal would be in other respects. Would it have the same talent, the same personality? How much of an animal's success in sport is due to training and conditioning?

Okay, ethics aside, I have a degree in science, and my scientific mind really, really would love to study a clone, and find answers to these questions!

 Depends on the dog.  I'd clone my male in a heartbeat, if I had the finances to do so.  Absolutely.

A majority of the pups in the experiment had digestive problems and died.  Doesn't sound encouraging.  I don't know if I'd breed to a clone or not.  If the resulting offspring were very viable...and not like the quoted case, where more than half the litter died...and the clones themselves were proven capable of recreating the accomplishments of the original.  I'd have to study it and make an informed decision instead of an emotional reaction.  Like most everything in life.  Veronica

If the issue causing the early demise of clones was ironed out,  I was going to say I absoloutely would because I have no moral issue with regards to cloning.  My thinking was in the case of an exceptional animal, "Why not?"  Then I read RacingQH's post and I changed my mind.  There is a lot to be said about closing the chapter and moving on.  Also and anyway, the SV doesn't even allow AI, can you imagine it ever allowing clones? HA!

On a different note, I also wouldn't want to clone even my all time favorite once-in-a-lifetime dog because I believe nurture is equally important as are the genes, I don't believe you would end up with the exact same animal.  Look at the case of that guys with the bull.  The thing was so docile it was like a pet dog, his best friend.  The guy had it cloned and although it looks identical to the original, it isn't quite so sweet or trustworthy.  In fact it has been reported the bull has a very disconcerting habit of charging and attempting to run over/gore people.

Racing QH

could not agree with you more, we also have horses and the horse world is far more advanced than the dog world, via science

it is immoral, unethical and not right, scientists know full well that Dolly the sheeps offspring all died far too young

When an animal has passed that should be the end of that chapter, and yes we should move forwards not backwards

KCzaja,

Here is a post I made on the Green Board on December 23, 2004.

Kinda strange to look back at it. Not much input from the board at that time.

Mike

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Recently a lady paid $50,000 to have her cat cloned. I saw the interview with the Cloning Companies CEO. He stated that the "Dog" seems to be the hardest animal to clone. He said 1-2 yrs away. They can store a sample from the animal (DNA) for about $300. He also stated that the price will drop to clone in the furture, kinda like plasma TVs.

My Question: Is this Good or Bad? This could mean that for around $25000, after prices stablize, you could own a Cloned VA1 Dog . Could this cause damage to the GSD breeding stock and potentally cause a decrease in value of the Top Dogs. Or how do you judge Yassko Jr vs Yassko Jr vs Yassko Jr?

I was thinking about this while shoveling 2 feet of snow this morning.
Merry Christmas

Mike