DDR line-Are these colors possible? - Page 1

Being an avid lover of DDR dogs, or combinations of DDR with Czechoslavakian blood, I have often looked, and to this day, haven't seen a TRUE Bi-Color. I know the czech's can produce the bi-color, but I have never seen a PURE DDR dog in Bi-Color.

Does anyone know what DDR lines or DDR/Czech lines would produce a Bi-Color? Obviously breeding a Bi-color czech to a DDR dog, MIGHT produce bi-colors, but if persay, one wanted a PURE DDR dog, in Bi-Color, can it be done?

Please people, honest question, no bashing needed (I just want to learn!!!). Below is a picture of what I PERSONALLY define as a Bi-Color, or rather, true bi-color:

This female is from pure Czech lines, but this is what I wouldn't mind seeing in DDR lines...is it possible?

***Sorry, put her in there twice! This girl is owned by East German Shepherds I think***

There is no such thing as "pure Czech lines", they have been mixed with everything from WG showlines to DDR dogs and still are.

But to answer your question, if the demand is high enough someone will breed this color and call them DDR.

This color used to be common in DDR lines, and it probably still is. It's just that sable is the dominant color, and people keep breeding sable to sable and sable to black--neither of which combinations is likely to produce bicolor puppies if the sables are black sables with the black recessive--you'll get blacks, black sables, and sable/sables....

To get a bicolor like that (which I believe is genetically a bicolor with a black recessive), you'd need one parent to carry the bicolor gene and the other to carry the black gene.

I'm pretty sure that this dog of mine is a bicolor/bicolor--no black recessive (it's hard to tell, but she has little tan eyebrows and no toe marks):

Her mom produced a bicolor or two in every litter, but never any blacks, I think she's bt/bicolor. A half brother of Hunter's with the black recessive (the dad was a sable with a black recessive, so I know he carries the gene for black) is Coal:

It's my favorite color too--so I understand the desire for it. :)

Christine

www.blackthornkennel.com

Here is the pedigree of a bi-color DDR that I use to own www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/502005.html and please no bashing on her kennel name as I already know what I need to about it. She is an awesome DDR dog with great drives, and is in a wonderful home. here is a picture of her before she left to go to her new home, mind you she still had her winter coat in these picture's.  Hope this helps you out some :-)

Hi there Lillybug!!  The female you have at the top is the mother of my "UNA".  That's "Bailey".  Una is a nice Bi-Color female.  Below is a picture of her the other day at the gun range.  She is in training with us down at Sun Dog Training Center in Romeo.  Pushing her towards PP and Accellerant Detection.  Bailey is a retired detection dog.  I loved Baileys lines.

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/126426.html 

This female is an awesome bi-color. 

Thanks Guys! It's funny, I truly enjoy the black sables, but have always wanted a bi-color, that was either full DDR or DDR and Czech.

I think all to often I see what I define as a "Black and Red" and some call it a bi-color, so I have over looked a great many dogs because of this.

Sperna, your Una is a lovely girl, and both her and Baily are what I define as TRUE BI-COLORS, and this is the exact look (well, maybe thicker bone) I want in a dog with DDR bloodlines.

Thanks again!

How about this guy in the database:  V. Don vom Rolandsteich  ,  and if you click on progeny it looks like he produced quite a few ddr bicolor dogs.

To Me, that appears to be a black and red. I am familiar with Don, as he is in one of my past dog's pedigree.

Thanks anyway!

How about Al Gill's old dog "Champ"?

http://www.gillsgermanshepherds.com/champped.htm

Tina