Co ownership - Page 1

I have done this before but my friend asked me to co own a dog he is planning to importing ie. buy him the dog as he is having financial difficulties and he will look after him at his cost.

We are buying a titled male hoping to breed, I have no idea how I can recover my cost of the dog. would it be like a monthly payment or part of the stud fees, what if we dont get that many studs...

Advice would be great

Wait just a minute here. 

Here www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/bulletins_read/216632.html you are asking about breeding pedigree to pedigree.  Do you know what the lines are?  What each lines strengths and weaknesses are?  What the motherline and sire's line will bring to the table yet?  Genetic health concerns in both?

Here www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/bulletins_read/217014.html you are saying that the kennel sizes given are large...

What other exercise would they be getting?  What training?  How often? 

What are you looking to breed for?  What goals do you have for your breeding program?  Health program (hips, elbows, etc.)?  Those aren't even the hard questions.

A few recent links you might be interested in.

www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/bulletins_read/116022.html

www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/bulletins_read/203745.html

www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/bulletins_read/216486.html

www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/bulletins_read/216607.html

Things that make you go hmmmmmm...???

Whatever you do, be SURE to have a written contract you both agree on and sign.  Unless he's a well-known, titled, proven stud it may be hard to get bitches to come to his court.  Doesn't sound like anything I'd personally want to get into. Be careful either way. I know of alot of friendships that were ruined over things like this!

I am new to GSD, less than 2 years. I own a bitch that is bred on show line but have no intention to breed from her. The proposed dog is FCI judge selected and is coming from Germany. I also know the judge quite well. So i guess he be good. My friend is an experienced breeder breeding less than 3 litters a year if he is lucky, he wants to get a new male to enhance the lines.

I have heard about many friendships going wrong with co owner ship. What would be the best practice and what should I be looking for.

I like to have more GSD but do have a space issue. I do have people to obidence train and to walk the dogs daily in addition I am hoping to buy a dog tread mill. If I do get more GSD they have to live in the kennel but since no space I cannot consider any GSD at the moment. My friend has plenty of space.

Here's a thought.  Post your friends proposal re: the co-ownership.  There are many people here who can tell you if it is the standard co-ownership contract or not.

It might help to know where you live.  Different areas/countries might have a slightly different practice for whatever reason.  Those with experience from those areas/countries might be better able to advise as to the practices there. 

I have only rarely re-couped my investment importing  stud dogs.  Most breeders in the US have their own, which they use unilaterally, whether the dog fits their females or not. 

SS

I wouldn't bank on making your money back with a stud unless you compete at a high level, and make a name for him.  I've been told by a high level competator that even then you don't get as many covers as you'd think.

 Hello,

You probably will not like what we say, nor accept our advice. However, based on years and years of experience, I think chances are high that you will end up coming here complaining when you get screwed in this deal. People, especially people who know little about training, showing, the breed in general, let alone breeding and what that takes, often are suckers for people who simply want to take their money to help with expenses at a given time. Then, later, when you do not want to pay for something, or the other person wants to do something with the dog and you are required to pay half, even if you don't agree that it should be done, huge problems arise. As others have already pointed out, one almost never recoups money from bringing a stud. So it should be understood that there are other reasons for doing so.

I think you would be well advised to listen and learn before you leap. But, given that, I expect you will do exactly as you planned and we probably will hear about all your troubles later......Just remember, we cannot help you then either with anything except opinions.

Good luck.

I guess most of you are right, it can get very very complicated & recovering cost would be next to impossible compare to the cost of the dog.

Hodie, thanks for your advise.

GSDfan, I think you are right, dreams of becoming rich is slim as winning a lottery.

No your odds are better with the lottery.