Weird throwing up - both dogs... - Page 1

I feed my dogs kibble only once per day, and that is before we go to bed at night. 

This afternoon I came home from work and Jager throws up a HUGE pile of dog food, this is at 5:30 tonight and he has not eaten kibble since last night at around 10:00 or so.  I figured maybe he had a piece of bone or something in his belly and wondered why the kibble was not digested by 5:30 but just kind of shrugged it off, he has plenty of energy etc.

Just 5 minutes ago as we are going upstairs to go to bed, Sasha throws up on my stairs, a LARGER than Jager's pile there are whole pieces of kibble in there (Royal Canin 24) and these are from LAST night!!  This really seems to be her entire dinner, since she only gets about 2 cups there was at least two cups of swollen food there!

This is the first feeding that Sasha and Jager have had out of this bag, the puppies have eaten out of three days, and they had slight diarhea, but I figured that is because I just switched them from the puppy food...

What the heck is going on anyone??  How long does kibble take to digest, I would have thought much less than 24 hours!!!!

Of course I have stopped feeding that bag of RC, this is too weird...

Both dogs seem to be just fine, plenty of energy, and drinking just fine??  Any thoughts??

Ok I am going to bed, I will call RC in the morning, both dogs are very energetic running around, so I can't imagine this is an emergency.  I will not feed them tonight and will feed them K9 KRaving in the morning.

I just have never seen a dog puke near 24 hours after they ate and have it look like it was just an hour ago.  I am pretty sure kibble is out of the stomach within 6-8 hours.

I have fed Premium Kibble, as well as rice and pasta, only to see the dogs I was working, throw the meal up, a good 20hours later, in the same form as when I fed it.

I can remember, as a small boy growing up in the 50's, Safeway Grocery Store, selling square 1lb packages of Hill's Horsemeat for dogs, in the frozen food section. 

Commercial dog foods did not become available until the late 50's and early 60's. The draw of processed dog foods for the public is mainly for convenience, and good marketing. Dog food companies began to convince the public that dog foods were complete in nutrition, and balanced. They also used marketing and advertising to convince the public that canine nutrition was complex, and only a dry, scientifically formulated diet could give their dog complete nutrition. Prior to that time, people gave their dogs scraps,  raw meat, eggs and bones. The digestive enzymes and bacteria found in fresh food helped dogs digest food better, and built stronger immune systems. These necessary nutrients are not found in processed foods, as the processing and cooking destroys them. Dogs began to develop coat, skin and allergy conditions. They also began to show dental problems, as their teeth are not designed for chewing, but for tearing and swallowing. Raw meat and bones contain enzymes and acids that help keep teeth clean, and also help to develop good musculature in the jaw and head.

Dogs, as carnivores, have difficulty digesting grains and other complex carbohydrates. With the lack of digestive enzymes in the mouth, complex carbohydrates are not predigested, and take a long time to break down in the stomach, and small intestine, if they break down at all.

Carnivores have the shortest and simplest digestive tract for ease of digesting animal protein and fat. Dogs fall into this category. Carnivores have sharp, jagged, blade-shaped molars, designed for slicing, rather than flat grinding molars designed for grinding. Their jaws cannot go sideways, as in herbivores and omnivores that grind their food by chewing, but are hinged to open widely to swallow large chunks of meat whole. Carnivores have the ability to consume large quantities of food at one time and can rest between meals. This is called ‘gorging’ in the wild and has its place in hunting large game. Carnivores can consume large meals after a hunt and then rest until the next opportunity for a meal. Dogs need animal protein for a complete amino acid profile. They can live without any vegetation (carbohydrates) but can also do fine with eating small amounts. They do not have the ability to break down cellulose so plant materials are not digested well, if at all.

Kari,

Please be sure and let us know the outcome,  I know quite a few people that feed Royal Canin 24.  That is very strange indeed. 

Good luck and I hope all is well.

KIM

www.justk9s.com

I have had this happen recently with my two Shepherds who are on Iams Lamb and Rice.The other two were fine who also are on the same food.I blame it on the hot weather and their sensitive stomachs.They acted normal before and after regurgitating this 10 hour old meal.The next day ate as normal and everything was fine again.

I think Abhay hit the nail on the head...dry kibble somettimes does not digest. It swells too fast and may have lodged in your dogs esophagus last night...and whallah..up it came...You dont wet your food to help stop bloat.????..I also put olive oil on my kibble.. all the time   a big tablespoon drizzle over the food...helps with digestion..Olive oil is a miracle oil...read up on it..

Feed a large dog twice a day instead of one large amount is wiser, imo.

KariM,

The only time I have ever seen mine throw up food as you describe was when they had been fed earlier and then had too much excitement or activity on a full stomach.   I'm sure you would know if they had plenty of water or not.  But did they lay around all day or were they active?   It's not impossible for there to be something wrong with the particular package of food you have and that would be my first thought.  I would get something else until you find out.

Abhay is right about commercial dogfood's and what a carnivore should be eating, it's the world we have created tho and we don't eat much better now a day's ourselve's.

Two of my dog's are off their feed lately and I assumed it was the return of hot weather and or the coming into season of my two bitch's.   But also once or twice a year they just get sick of it, bored with it.   A change might do them all some good.

I don't think this is anything serious as long as something else doesn't show up in the next few day's.   It's not that unusual I don't think.   Just keep watch for change's.

Brent.

I only feed kibble ONCE per day, the dogs get beef ribs for breakfast, and Ido put wtaer in their kibble at night.

I am not worried about their health right now because they are very active and yes drinking plenty of water.  I just thought it was very weird that they would have kibble in full pieces still in their stomachs after near 24 hours.

I will feed them K9 Kraving this morning, and wish I could feed this everyday, it's just so expensive and with me in a new job not an option right now.

I called RC and the lady did everything that she could to tell me it was something I did.  Did I let them run around and be active after I fed them, did they get into something without me knowing etc.  They are sending a packet for em to send them back samples, but it takes 8 weeks to see what the problem is.  She then told me that I had a blockage because I feed raw bones, which if only one dog had an issue I may be inclined to believe, but both dogs at the same time?  Seriously?  I don't have that bad of luck.

I watched them both poop this morning, Jager's looked really sticky kinda weird really, and Sash's looked normal, so they are not having diarrhea and they are drinking water, gums are bright and pink...

If they throw up their food from this morning I'll take them to the vet for Xrays, but honestly I think there must have been something going on with the food...

With all the posts regarding Royal Canin 24, you may want to do a search and read through them again.  I seem to recall there being some issues lately.

Good luck, I hope all turns out well.