How Would You Handle This Situation - $2000 for Dog and NO Papers! - Page 4

You CAN get a lawyer over there to help you if you want to do it.  For $2000, it's hardly worth it.  You are not entirely unprotected by the law over in Europe, and also, their federal tax people can be worse than our IRS.  If they are not operating their business completely above board in how they pay their taxes, then that alone can cause them some grief, I would think.  Always worth trying :-)

Veronica

There have been several problems of this nature on this data base over the years.  For

the life of me, I cannot understand how anyone can give this much money to anyone

with one hand without taking the papers with the other hand.  It boggles my mind.  ecs

It is so easy these days to register dogs.  Through the internet we can all read the rules and regulations to get dogs registered.  I only had one litter with and imported German female and an AKC/SV registered male.  I was blown away how easy it was to register the female with foreign registration and how quick it was.  I just had to take photos of the female and send in copies of her pink papers along with the Bescheinigung. 

With an imported male, it should hardly be more bother. 

Paperwork is everything.  Having the puppies go to their new homes with their AKC registrations, gives the owners the assurance they have been dealing with someone that has been forthright from the beginning to the end.  Why stress out the owners who hopefully have taken home their companion dog for their whole lives?

One might think it is easy, sometimes it is, other times it is not. I bought a female, had to get a bescheinigung. That took over a year. In the meantime, I bred the female, and that meant the pups from that litter could NOT be registered with the AKC until everything was taken care of. NOT as easy as one might think!

Your contract is with her.  She is who you purchased the dog from. Whatever her arrangements were with someone else are her problem.  She needs to take whatever steps are necessary to live up to her contract with you.

File a small claim action against the person you purchased the dog from. 

This is why you don't deal with middle-men or so-called "brokers". 

JustLurkin

Is correct. If you have any contract, emails, the Add from the database then file for small claims court. Do it in YOUR court system and hopefully you live far enough away to force Ms. Coats to travel.

Judges seem to be in favor of helping the victim and it looks better if you file first.

If Ms.Coats doesn't appear in court even better for you. You get a judgement and then you can attach her bank accounts, car tiles even a house can have a lien thrown on it.

It costs about $40.00 to file. If you win, you get that back too.

Good Luck

Get three or four people to go with you to there house, show up out of know where and demand your papers. Scew all that getting a lawyer shit. Show up and put the fear of god into them. I had someone sell me a dog with a bad heart and I took my brothers and drove 6 hours to there house and wow were these people surprised when we showed up. I got my money back on the spot. I'm not a mean person at all until someone rips me off, then look out.

One might think it is easy, sometimes it is, other times it is not. I bought a female, had to get a bescheinigung. That took over a year. In the meantime, I bred the female, and that meant the pups from that litter could NOT be registered with the AKC until everything was taken care of. NOT as easy as one might think!

As much as I respect your situation, I just don't understand why you had a litter without having mother registered first.  I mean there is a logical flow to things.  Paperwork + breeding = registered offspring.  Even if this means waiting a year.  You weren't waiting a full year for a Bescheinigung from the SV in Germany, were you?  That just could not be because pups at 8 weeks from the Kirschentals all have their paperwork tied up before they even leave Germany.

I paid $2500 for a pup from a  well known, well respected breeder in the mid west. I paid the kennel, got a contract from the kennel.  No problem with the papers, but at 14 months old I took him in for prelim xrays.   Severe HD.  When I called the kennel expecting a refund or a replacement pup I was told to return him for another pup.  After a year with this boy???  Of course I won't give him up... After a lot of poking and prodding I found out that the dam was never x-rayed, and the bitch wasn't even the kennels dog, they just helped place the pups. They stated that they would credit me 1/2 of the purchase price toward my next dog from them. Puppies selling for $5000 now.  This is my second GSD, so I'm still a rookie, but I spent over a year talking to people, researching kennels, finding the type of GSD I wanted....  So I guess no matter what we do we end up getting screwed.  Time to switch breeds??

This reminds me of the Melissa Kolbe scam. 
Care to share the breeder's name?